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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Richard Gooch <rgooch@ras.ucalgary.ca>
Cc: Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortelnetworks.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	Jeff Dike <jdike@karaya.com>,
	user-mode-linux-user <user-mode-linux-user@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jan Hubicka <jh@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: user-mode port 0.44-2.4.7
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 02:04:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010724020413.A29561@athlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0107231259520.13272-100000@penguin.transmeta.com> <3B5C8C96.FE53F5BA@nortelnetworks.com> <20010723231136.E16919@athlon.random> <200107232150.f6NLosh13126@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca> <20010724000933.I16919@athlon.random> <200107232347.f6NNl4u14416@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca>
In-Reply-To: <200107232347.f6NNl4u14416@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca>; from rgooch@ras.ucalgary.ca on Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 05:47:04PM -0600

On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 05:47:04PM -0600, Richard Gooch wrote:
> I don't think it should be allowed to do that. That's a whipping

it is allowed to do that, period. This is not your choice or my choice.
You may ask gcc folks not to do that and I think they just do.

> So grab a local snapshot of the variable, as Linus suggested. In fact,
> the switch example is interesting, because one could argue the
> opposite way, that declaring the switch variable as "volatile" means
> that if GCC needs to internally re-"get" the variable, it should grab
> it from memory, and thus definately fail. Without "volatile", GCC is
> implicitely allowed to cache the variable (which is of course safe).

If gcc caches there's no problem indeed, the problem is when it doesn't
cache it which can happen, with volatile it will understand it must not
make assumption for the variable to not change under it. Anyways as just
said in another email in this thread I'm been told it wasn't just for
'case'. I think tomorrow Honza will comment this since he's the gcc
developer who asked those kernel bugs to be fixed for gcc.

Andrea

  reply	other threads:[~2001-07-24  0:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-07-23  5:08 user-mode port 0.44-2.4.7 Jeff Dike
2001-07-23 15:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-07-23 15:59   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-07-23 16:17     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-07-23 16:51       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-07-23 16:33   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-23 16:45     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-07-23 17:32       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-23 17:50         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-07-23 18:11           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-23 18:27             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-07-23 20:00               ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-23 20:15                 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-07-23 22:51                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-24  3:45                     ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-07-24 15:41                       ` Davide Libenzi
2001-07-24 15:46                         ` Alexander Viro
2001-07-24 16:01                           ` Davide Libenzi
2001-07-24 16:08                             ` Alexander Viro
2001-07-24 16:52                               ` Davide Libenzi
2001-07-24 16:59                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-24 17:31                                   ` Davide Libenzi
2001-07-24 17:38                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-24 18:07                               ` Anton Altaparmakov
2001-07-23 20:44                 ` Chris Friesen
2001-07-23 21:11                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-07-23 21:50                   ` Richard Gooch
2001-07-23 22:09                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-07-23 13:20                       ` Rob Landley
2001-07-23 22:27                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-07-23 17:50                           ` Rob Landley
2001-07-23 23:47                     ` Richard Gooch
2001-07-24  0:04                       ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2001-07-24  9:02                         ` Jan Hubicka
2001-07-24 15:35                           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-24 16:04                         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-25 22:49                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-07-25 23:16                             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-25 23:37                               ` Chris Friesen
2001-07-26 18:28                             ` Jan Hubicka
2001-07-26 18:35                               ` Alan Cox
2001-07-23 22:53                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-23 23:13                     ` Alan Cox
2001-07-23 20:25   ` Jeff Dike
     [not found] <no.id>
2001-07-23 20:57 ` Alan Cox
2001-07-23 21:14   ` Chris Friesen
2001-07-25 19:12 ` Alan Cox
2001-07-25 23:49 ` Alan Cox
2001-07-25 19:03 James W. Lake

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