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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: Jeff Dike <jdike@karaya.com>,
	<user-mode-linux-user@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: user-mode port 0.44-2.4.7
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 10:32:32 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0107231031380.13231-100000@penguin.transmeta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010723184528.R822@athlon.random>


On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
>
> it's the other way around, it's needed and gcc trapped a kernel bug.

No it's not.

> If the contents of memory not declared volatile changes under GCC (like
> it can happen right now for xtime since it's declared non volatile), gcc
> has the full rights to crash the kernel at runtime.

Absolutely not.

If we care abotu the thing always having the same value, we HAVE to use a
lock. "volatile" is not the answer.

Show me a place where we care.

		Linus


  reply	other threads:[~2001-07-23 17:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-07-23  5:08 user-mode port 0.44-2.4.7 Jeff Dike
2001-07-23 15:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-07-23 15:59   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-07-23 16:17     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-07-23 16:51       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-07-23 16:33   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-23 16:45     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-07-23 17:32       ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2001-07-23 17:50         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-07-23 18:11           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-23 18:27             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-07-23 20:00               ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-23 20:15                 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-07-23 22:51                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-24  3:45                     ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-07-24 15:41                       ` Davide Libenzi
2001-07-24 15:46                         ` Alexander Viro
2001-07-24 16:01                           ` Davide Libenzi
2001-07-24 16:08                             ` Alexander Viro
2001-07-24 16:52                               ` Davide Libenzi
2001-07-24 16:59                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-24 17:31                                   ` Davide Libenzi
2001-07-24 17:38                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-24 18:07                               ` Anton Altaparmakov
2001-07-23 20:44                 ` Chris Friesen
2001-07-23 21:11                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-07-23 21:50                   ` Richard Gooch
2001-07-23 22:09                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-07-23 13:20                       ` Rob Landley
2001-07-23 22:27                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-07-23 17:50                           ` Rob Landley
2001-07-23 23:47                     ` Richard Gooch
2001-07-24  0:04                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-07-24  9:02                         ` Jan Hubicka
2001-07-24 15:35                           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-24 16:04                         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-25 22:49                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-07-25 23:16                             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-25 23:37                               ` Chris Friesen
2001-07-26 18:28                             ` Jan Hubicka
2001-07-26 18:35                               ` Alan Cox
2001-07-23 22:53                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-23 23:13                     ` Alan Cox
2001-07-23 20:25   ` Jeff Dike
     [not found] <no.id>
2001-07-23 20:57 ` Alan Cox
2001-07-23 21:14   ` Chris Friesen
2001-07-25 19:12 ` Alan Cox
2001-07-25 23:49 ` Alan Cox
2001-07-25 19:03 James W. Lake

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