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From: Ville Herva <vherva@niksula.hut.fi>
To: Kamil Iskra <kamil@science.uva.nl>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Poor floppy performance in kernel 2.4.10
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 19:17:32 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011018191732.B1262@niksula.cs.hut.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20011018092837.C1144@turbolinux.com> <Pine.LNX.4.33.0110181734270.7583-100000@krakow.science.uva.nl>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0110181734270.7583-100000@krakow.science.uva.nl>; from kamil@science.uva.nl on Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 05:42:44PM +0200

On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 05:42:44PM +0200, you [Kamil Iskra] claimed:
> On Thu, 18 Oct 2001, Andreas Dilger wrote:
> 
> > > The behaviour is as if no caching was done,
> > > there is a slowdown by a factor of two.
> > I think this is a result of the "blockdev in pagecache" change added in
> > 2.4.10.  One of the byproducts of this change is that if a block device
> > is closed (no other openers) then all of the pages from this device are
> > dropped from the cache.  In the case of a floppy drive, this is very
> > important, as you don't want to be cacheing data from one floppy after
> > you have inserted a new floppy.
> >
> > In contrast, if you mounted the floppy instead of using mtools, it would
> > probably have good performance for small files as well.
> 
> That's very interesting.  It would explain why it takes 2 seconds _every_
> time you invoke "mdir", whereas before the invocations after the first one
> were more or less instantenous.  And indeed, as you say, mounting a floppy
> does result in a good performance.
> 
> However, it does not explain why the first invocation is two times slower
> (it's 1 sec with kernel 2.4.9 and 2 secs with 2.4.10, the effect is even
> more visible for mcopy of a small file, like 30KB).  I strace'd mdir and
> it's opening /dev/fd0 just once, at the beginning, and closing it at the
> end.

That's propably beacause it syncs the writes on close().

Perhaps you could try the trick Linus suggested in another thread, namely:

sleep 1000 < /dev/fd0 &

mdir 
mcopy
mdir
mcopy
<do whatever>

kill %1

That keeps one (dummy) reference to the floppy device open until you're done
using it.


-- v --

v@iki.fi

  reply	other threads:[~2001-10-18 16:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-10-17  7:36 Poor floppy performance in kernel 2.4.10 Kamil Iskra
2001-10-17 20:45 ` Steve Kieu
2001-10-18 10:11   ` Kamil Iskra
2001-10-18 15:28     ` Andreas Dilger
2001-10-18 15:42       ` Kamil Iskra
2001-10-18 16:17         ` Ville Herva [this message]
2001-10-18 16:30           ` Nick LeRoy
2001-10-18 19:57             ` bill davidsen
2001-10-18 20:47               ` Nick LeRoy
2001-10-18 20:05             ` bill davidsen
2001-10-18 20:15               ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-18 16:18       ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-18 17:44         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-10-19  7:50           ` Giuliano Pochini
2001-10-19 13:46             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-10-19 15:57             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-20  4:20               ` Rob Landley
2001-10-19 16:58 Manfred Spraul
2001-10-21 11:36 Alain Knaff
2001-10-22  9:59 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-10-22 10:06   ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-22 14:07 ` Nick LeRoy
2001-10-22 18:28 ` bill davidsen
2001-10-27 15:00 Alain Knaff
2001-10-27 15:15 ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-27 17:12   ` Alain Knaff
2001-10-27 17:42     ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-27 18:00       ` Alain Knaff
2001-10-27 18:13         ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-27 18:26         ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-06  7:01         ` Richard Gooch
2001-11-06  7:03           ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-06  7:19         ` Richard Gooch
2001-11-06  7:22           ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-27 19:13       ` Alain Knaff
2001-10-27 19:19         ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-27 19:26           ` Alain Knaff
2001-10-28 20:40           ` Alain Knaff
2001-10-28 20:57             ` Peter T. Breuer
2001-10-29  5:38               ` Alain Knaff
2001-10-29  6:07                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-29  6:34                   ` Alain Knaff
2001-10-28 21:42             ` Alexander Viro

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