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From: davidsen@tmr.com (bill davidsen)
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Poor floppy performance in kernel 2.4.10
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 16:05:07 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200110182005.f9IK57506905@deathstar.prodigy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200110181632.f9IGW9i29729@schroeder.cs.wisc.edu>

In article <200110181632.f9IGW9i29729@schroeder.cs.wisc.edu> nleroy@cs.wisc.edu wrote:
| On Thursday 18 October 2001 11:17, Ville Herva wrote:
| 
| (snip)
| > That's propably beacause it syncs the writes on close().
| >
| > Perhaps you could try the trick Linus suggested in another thread, namely:
| >
| > sleep 1000 < /dev/fd0 &
| >
| > mdir
| > mcopy
| > mdir
| > mcopy
| > <do whatever>
| >
| > kill %1
| >
| > That keeps one (dummy) reference to the floppy device open until you're
| > done using it.
| 
| Perhaps there should be a pair of "mtools" added: mopen and mclose, that do 
| basically this.  That way it could be a "standard" item, documented in man 
| pages, etc., not some secret that only the l-k users know.  Thoughts?

  The change prevents use of stale data, and is a good one. mtools was a
hack from the days when some operating systems didn't speak DOS file
format, and reliability is more important than performance.

  That said, can't you just keep the drive accessed and avoid the
problem?
  sleep 3600 </dev/fd0 &
should do it. Just kill the process when you eject the floppy, or you
will get back the stale data problem.

  I don't believe the detection of a new floppy in the drive is reliable
on all systems or they would have flushed on loading a new diskette. I
seem to remember that not all drives provide the signal, at least back
when I wrote my last floppy driver (DEC Rainbow, about 20 years ago).

-- 
bill davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
  His first management concern is not solving the problem, but covering
his ass. If he lived in the middle ages he'd wear his codpiece backward.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-10-18 20:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-10-17  7:36 Poor floppy performance in kernel 2.4.10 Kamil Iskra
2001-10-17 20:45 ` Steve Kieu
2001-10-18 10:11   ` Kamil Iskra
2001-10-18 15:28     ` Andreas Dilger
2001-10-18 15:42       ` Kamil Iskra
2001-10-18 16:17         ` Ville Herva
2001-10-18 16:30           ` Nick LeRoy
2001-10-18 19:57             ` bill davidsen
2001-10-18 20:47               ` Nick LeRoy
2001-10-18 20:05             ` bill davidsen [this message]
2001-10-18 20:15               ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-18 16:18       ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-18 17:44         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-10-19  7:50           ` Giuliano Pochini
2001-10-19 13:46             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-10-19 15:57             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-20  4:20               ` Rob Landley
2001-10-19 16:58 Manfred Spraul
2001-10-21 11:36 Alain Knaff
2001-10-22  9:59 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-10-22 10:06   ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-22 14:07 ` Nick LeRoy
2001-10-22 18:28 ` bill davidsen
2001-10-27 15:00 Alain Knaff
2001-10-27 15:15 ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-27 17:12   ` Alain Knaff
2001-10-27 17:42     ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-27 18:00       ` Alain Knaff
2001-10-27 18:13         ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-27 18:26         ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-06  7:01         ` Richard Gooch
2001-11-06  7:03           ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-06  7:19         ` Richard Gooch
2001-11-06  7:22           ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-27 19:13       ` Alain Knaff
2001-10-27 19:19         ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-27 19:26           ` Alain Knaff
2001-10-28 20:40           ` Alain Knaff
2001-10-28 20:57             ` Peter T. Breuer
2001-10-29  5:38               ` Alain Knaff
2001-10-29  6:07                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-29  6:34                   ` Alain Knaff
2001-10-28 21:42             ` Alexander Viro

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