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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@steeleye.com>
To: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>,
	"Adam J. Richter" <adam@yggdrasil.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] generic device DMA implementation
Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 21:13:33 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200212050313.gB53DXV05743@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Message from David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>  of "Thu, 05 Dec 2002 13:38:47 +1100." <20021205023847.GA1500@zax.zax>

david@gibson.dropbear.id.au said:
> The point is, there has to be an advantage to using consistent memory
> if it is available AND the possibility of it not being available. 

I'm really thinking of this from the driver writer's point of view.  The 
advantage of consistent memory is that you don't have to think about where to 
place all the sync points (sync points can be really subtle and nasty and an 
absolute pain---I shudder to recall all of the problems I ran into writing a 
driver on a fully inconsistent platform).

The advantage here is that you can code the driver only to use consistent 
memory and not bother with the sync points (whatever the cost of this is).  
Most platforms support reasonably cheap consistent memory, so most people 
simply don't want to bother with inconsistent memory if they can avoid it.

If you do the sync points, you can specify the DMA_CONFORMANCE_NON_CONSISTENT 
level and have the platform choose what type of memory you get.  For a 
platform which makes memory consistent by turning off CPU caching at the page 
level, it's probably better to return non-consistent memory if the driver can 
cope with it.

James



  reply	other threads:[~2002-12-05  3:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-12-04 17:47 [RFC] generic device DMA implementation James Bottomley
2002-12-04 18:27 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-12-04 19:36   ` James Bottomley
2002-12-04 21:19 ` Miles Bader
2002-12-04 21:21 ` Miles Bader
2002-12-04 21:42   ` James Bottomley
2002-12-05  5:44     ` Miles Bader
2002-12-04 21:46   ` James Bottomley
2002-12-05  2:31     ` Miles Bader
2002-12-05  3:06       ` James Bottomley
2002-12-05  5:02       ` David Gibson
2002-12-05 11:15     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-12-05 11:16       ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-05 15:12       ` James Bottomley
2002-12-05  0:47 ` David Gibson
2002-12-05  0:54   ` Jeff Garzik
2002-12-05  1:44   ` James Bottomley
2002-12-05  2:38     ` David Gibson
2002-12-05  3:13       ` James Bottomley [this message]
2002-12-05  5:05         ` David Gibson
2002-12-05 15:03           ` James Bottomley
2002-12-05 23:54             ` David Gibson
2002-12-05  3:17       ` Miles Bader
2002-12-05  6:06         ` David Gibson
2002-12-05  6:43           ` Miles Bader
2002-12-05 23:44             ` David Gibson
2002-12-06  2:23               ` Miles Bader
2002-12-05  3:41       ` Jeff Garzik
2002-12-05  6:04         ` David Gibson
2002-12-05 16:29           ` Jeff Garzik
2002-12-05 23:59             ` David Gibson
2002-12-05 11:08   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-12-05 11:35     ` Russell King
2002-12-05 15:24       ` James Bottomley
2002-12-06  0:01     ` David Gibson
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-12-18  3:01 [RFT][PATCH] " James Bottomley
2002-12-18  3:13 ` David Mosberger
2002-12-28 18:14 ` Russell King
2002-12-28 18:19   ` James Bottomley
2002-12-07 14:37 [RFC] " Adam J. Richter
2002-12-07  4:12 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-06 22:52 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-06 22:17 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-06 22:26 ` James Bottomley
2002-12-06 22:29   ` David S. Miller
2002-12-06 22:48     ` James Bottomley
2002-12-06 22:49       ` David S. Miller
2002-12-06 22:32   ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-12-06 17:39 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-06 18:07 ` Matthew Wilcox
2002-12-06 17:07 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-06 16:48 James Bottomley
2002-12-06 16:19 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-06 16:40 ` Matthew Wilcox
2002-12-06 18:17 ` David S. Miller
2002-12-06 18:29   ` James Bottomley
2002-12-06 18:31     ` David S. Miller
2002-12-06 18:40       ` James Bottomley
2002-12-06 18:42         ` David S. Miller
2002-12-06 21:04           ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-12-07 10:19       ` David Gibson
2002-12-06 18:36   ` Matthew Wilcox
2002-12-06 18:38     ` David S. Miller
2002-12-06  7:41 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-06 15:50 ` David S. Miller
2002-12-06  7:14 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-06 16:26 ` James Bottomley
2002-12-06 17:48   ` Miles Bader
2002-12-07  9:56   ` David Gibson
2002-12-07  9:45 ` David Gibson
2002-12-07 11:26   ` Russell King
2002-12-08  5:28     ` David Gibson
2002-12-06  6:15 David Brownell
2002-12-06  2:08 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-06  2:53 ` David Gibson
2002-12-06  4:03   ` David S. Miller
2002-12-05 20:27 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-05 17:49 Manfred Spraul
2002-12-06  0:08 ` David Gibson
2002-12-05 12:21 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-05 12:44 ` Russell King
2002-12-05 12:13 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-05 11:57 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-06  0:06 ` David Gibson
2002-12-05  5:20 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-05  3:02 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-05  6:15 ` David Gibson
2002-12-05  1:21 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-05  2:40 ` David Gibson
2002-12-05  2:49   ` Miles Bader
2002-12-05  6:12     ` David Gibson
2002-12-05  0:43 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-05  0:55 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-12-05  2:02 ` James Bottomley
2002-11-09  4:51 [parisc-linux] Untested port of parisc_device to generic device interface Adam J. Richter
2002-11-09  5:21 ` Matthew Wilcox
2002-11-09  6:03   ` Greg KH
2002-11-09 15:33     ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-13  6:13       ` Greg KH
2002-11-13  7:46         ` Miles Bader
2002-11-13  7:52           ` Greg KH
2002-11-13  8:02             ` Miles Bader
2002-11-13  8:10               ` Greg KH
2002-11-13  8:26                 ` Miles Bader
2002-11-13  8:25                   ` Greg KH
2002-11-13  9:05                     ` Miles Bader
     [not found]               ` <miles@lsi.nec.co.jp>
2002-11-13 20:13                 ` Grant Grundler
2002-11-13 20:21                   ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-13 20:37                     ` Grant Grundler
2002-11-13 11:59             ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2002-11-13 12:36               ` Marc Zyngier
2002-11-13 16:32             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2002-11-13 17:23               ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-13 20:33                 ` Grant Grundler
2002-11-13 20:44                   ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-13 21:42                     ` Grant Grundler
2002-11-13 20:12             ` Grant Grundler
2002-11-09  7:58   ` Marc Zyngier
2002-11-09 18:04 ` Grant Grundler

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