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From: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] generic device DMA implementation
Date: 05 Dec 2002 06:21:42 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87smxdiiop.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200212041747.gB4HlEF03005@localhost.localdomain>

James Bottomley writes:
> Currently our only DMA API is highly PCI specific (making any non-pci
> bus with a DMA controller create fake PCI devices to help it
> function).
>
> Now that we have the generic device model, it should be equally
> possible to rephrase the entire API for generic devices instead of
> pci_devs.

Keep in mind that sometimes the actual _implementation_ is also highly
PCI-specific -- that is, what works for PCI devices may not work for
other devices and vice-versa.

So perhaps instead of just replacing `pci_...' with `dma_...', it would
be better to add new function pointers to `struct bus_type' for all this
stuff (or something like that).

> The PCI api has pci_alloc_consistent which allocates only consistent memory
> and fails the allocation if none is available thus leading to driver writers
> who might need to function with inconsistent memory to detect this and employ
> a fallback strategy.
> ...
> The idea is that the memory type can be coded into dma_addr_t which the
> subsequent memory sync operations can use to determine whether
> wback/invalidate should be a nop or not.

How is the driver supposed to tell whether a given dma_addr_t value
represents consistent memory or not?  It seems like an (arch-specific)
`dma_addr_is_consistent' function is necessary, but I couldn't see one
in your patch.

Thanks,

-Miles
-- 
We are all lying in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.
-Oscar Wilde

  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-12-04 21:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-12-04 17:47 [RFC] generic device DMA implementation James Bottomley
2002-12-04 18:27 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-12-04 19:36   ` James Bottomley
2002-12-04 21:19 ` Miles Bader
2002-12-04 21:21 ` Miles Bader [this message]
2002-12-04 21:42   ` James Bottomley
2002-12-05  5:44     ` Miles Bader
2002-12-04 21:46   ` James Bottomley
2002-12-05  2:31     ` Miles Bader
2002-12-05  3:06       ` James Bottomley
2002-12-05  5:02       ` David Gibson
2002-12-05 11:15     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-12-05 11:16       ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-05 15:12       ` James Bottomley
2002-12-05  0:47 ` David Gibson
2002-12-05  0:54   ` Jeff Garzik
2002-12-05  1:44   ` James Bottomley
2002-12-05  2:38     ` David Gibson
2002-12-05  3:13       ` James Bottomley
2002-12-05  5:05         ` David Gibson
2002-12-05 15:03           ` James Bottomley
2002-12-05 23:54             ` David Gibson
2002-12-05  3:17       ` Miles Bader
2002-12-05  6:06         ` David Gibson
2002-12-05  6:43           ` Miles Bader
2002-12-05 23:44             ` David Gibson
2002-12-06  2:23               ` Miles Bader
2002-12-05  3:41       ` Jeff Garzik
2002-12-05  6:04         ` David Gibson
2002-12-05 16:29           ` Jeff Garzik
2002-12-05 23:59             ` David Gibson
2002-12-05 11:08   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-12-05 11:35     ` Russell King
2002-12-05 15:24       ` James Bottomley
2002-12-06  0:01     ` David Gibson
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-12-18  3:01 [RFT][PATCH] " James Bottomley
2002-12-18  3:13 ` David Mosberger
2002-12-28 18:14 ` Russell King
2002-12-28 18:19   ` James Bottomley
2002-12-07 14:37 [RFC] " Adam J. Richter
2002-12-07  4:12 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-06 22:52 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-06 22:17 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-06 22:26 ` James Bottomley
2002-12-06 22:29   ` David S. Miller
2002-12-06 22:48     ` James Bottomley
2002-12-06 22:49       ` David S. Miller
2002-12-06 22:32   ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-12-06 17:39 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-06 18:07 ` Matthew Wilcox
2002-12-06 17:07 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-06 16:48 James Bottomley
2002-12-06 16:19 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-06 16:40 ` Matthew Wilcox
2002-12-06 18:17 ` David S. Miller
2002-12-06 18:29   ` James Bottomley
2002-12-06 18:31     ` David S. Miller
2002-12-06 18:40       ` James Bottomley
2002-12-06 18:42         ` David S. Miller
2002-12-06 21:04           ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-12-07 10:19       ` David Gibson
2002-12-06 18:36   ` Matthew Wilcox
2002-12-06 18:38     ` David S. Miller
2002-12-06  7:41 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-06 15:50 ` David S. Miller
2002-12-06  7:14 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-06 16:26 ` James Bottomley
2002-12-06 17:48   ` Miles Bader
2002-12-07  9:56   ` David Gibson
2002-12-07  9:45 ` David Gibson
2002-12-07 11:26   ` Russell King
2002-12-08  5:28     ` David Gibson
2002-12-06  6:15 David Brownell
2002-12-06  2:08 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-06  2:53 ` David Gibson
2002-12-06  4:03   ` David S. Miller
2002-12-05 20:27 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-05 17:49 Manfred Spraul
2002-12-06  0:08 ` David Gibson
2002-12-05 12:21 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-05 12:44 ` Russell King
2002-12-05 12:13 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-05 11:57 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-06  0:06 ` David Gibson
2002-12-05  5:20 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-05  3:02 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-05  6:15 ` David Gibson
2002-12-05  1:21 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-05  2:40 ` David Gibson
2002-12-05  2:49   ` Miles Bader
2002-12-05  6:12     ` David Gibson
2002-12-05  0:43 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-05  0:55 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-12-05  2:02 ` James Bottomley
2002-11-09  4:51 [parisc-linux] Untested port of parisc_device to generic device interface Adam J. Richter
2002-11-09  5:21 ` Matthew Wilcox
2002-11-09  6:03   ` Greg KH
2002-11-09 15:33     ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-13  6:13       ` Greg KH
2002-11-13  7:46         ` Miles Bader
2002-11-13  7:52           ` Greg KH
2002-11-13  8:02             ` Miles Bader
2002-11-13  8:10               ` Greg KH
2002-11-13  8:26                 ` Miles Bader
2002-11-13  8:25                   ` Greg KH
2002-11-13  9:05                     ` Miles Bader
     [not found]               ` <miles@lsi.nec.co.jp>
2002-11-13 20:13                 ` Grant Grundler
2002-11-13 20:21                   ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-13 20:37                     ` Grant Grundler
2002-11-13 11:59             ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2002-11-13 12:36               ` Marc Zyngier
2002-11-13 16:32             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2002-11-13 17:23               ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-13 20:33                 ` Grant Grundler
2002-11-13 20:44                   ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-13 21:42                     ` Grant Grundler
2002-11-13 20:12             ` Grant Grundler
2002-11-09  7:58   ` Marc Zyngier
2002-11-09 18:04 ` Grant Grundler

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