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From: Stephan von Krawczynski <skraw@ithnet.com>
To: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Are linux-fs's drive-fault-tolerant by concept?
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 13:19:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030421131934.1f6e29b0.skraw@ithnet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <03Apr21.020150edt.41463@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca>

On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 02:01:46 -0400
someone wrote:

> You write:
> | Can you tell me what is so particularly bad about the idea to cope a
> | little bit with braindead (or just-dying) hardware?
> 
> [...]
>  It probably could be done. I do not think it would be small or easy.
> Especially if filesystem developers feel that modern drives only start
> experiencing user-visible write errors about when they are going to
> explode in general, they may rationally feel that the work is not worth
> it.

I can very well accept that argument. What I am trying to do is only make
_someone_ writing a fs listen to the problem, and maybe - only maybe - in _his_
fs it is not as complicated and so he simply hacks it in. I am only arguing for
having a choice. Not more. If e.g. reiserfs had the feature I could simply
shoot all extX stuff and use my preferred fs all the time. That's just about
it. No religion involved. I am not arguing this type of feature as a
_must-have_. I only think regarding the neat stuff that is already inside
reiser (just to name my currently preferred fs) it would be very kind to have
write-error-recovery additionally.

Regards,
Stephan


       reply	other threads:[~2003-04-21 11:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mail.linux.kernel/20030420185512.763df745.skraw@ithnet.com>
     [not found] ` <03Apr21.020150edt.41463@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca>
2003-04-21 11:19   ` Stephan von Krawczynski [this message]
2003-04-21 11:52     ` Are linux-fs's drive-fault-tolerant by concept? Alan Cox
2003-04-21 14:14     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-05-06  7:03       ` Mike Fedyk
2003-04-20 17:44 Chuck Ebbert
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-04-20 17:44 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-20 17:28 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-20 17:28 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-21  9:36 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-04-20 17:03 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-20 17:25 ` John Bradford
2003-04-20 15:06 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-20 15:19 ` John Bradford
2003-04-19 16:04 Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-04-19 15:29 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-19 17:00   ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-04-19 22:04     ` Alan Cox
2003-04-20 16:24       ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-04-20 13:59     ` John Bradford
2003-04-20 16:55       ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-04-20 17:12         ` John Bradford
2003-04-20 17:21           ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-04-20 18:48             ` Alan Cox
2003-04-20 20:00               ` John Bradford
2003-04-21  1:51                 ` jw schultz
2003-04-19 21:13   ` Jos Hulzink
2003-04-20 16:07     ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-04-20 16:40       ` John Bradford
2003-04-20 17:01         ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-04-20 17:20           ` John Bradford
2003-04-21  9:32             ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-04-21  9:55               ` John Bradford
2003-04-21 11:24                 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-04-21 11:50                   ` Alan Cox
2003-04-21 12:14                   ` John Bradford
2003-04-19 16:22 ` John Bradford
2003-04-19 16:36   ` Russell King
2003-04-19 16:45     ` John Bradford
2003-04-19 16:52   ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-04-19 20:04     ` John Bradford
2003-04-19 20:33       ` Andreas Dilger
2003-04-21  9:25         ` Denis Vlasenko
2003-04-21  9:42           ` John Bradford
2003-04-21 10:25             ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-04-21 10:50               ` John Bradford
2003-04-19 20:38       ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-04-20 14:21         ` John Bradford
2003-04-21  9:09           ` Denis Vlasenko
2003-04-21  9:35             ` John Bradford
2003-04-21 11:03               ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-04-21 12:04                 ` John Bradford
2003-04-21 11:22               ` Denis Vlasenko
2003-04-21 11:46                 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-04-21 12:13                 ` John Bradford
2003-04-19 20:05     ` John Bradford
2003-04-19 23:13     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2003-04-19 17:54   ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-04-25  0:07   ` Stewart Smith
2003-04-25  0:52     ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-25  7:13       ` John Bradford
     [not found] ` <20030419161011$0136@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-04-19 17:18   ` Florian Weimer
2003-04-19 18:07     ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-04-19 18:41       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2003-04-19 20:56         ` Helge Hafting
2003-04-19 21:15           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-04-20 10:51             ` Helge Hafting
2003-04-20 19:04               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-04-19 21:57         ` Alan Cox
2003-04-20 10:09         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-04-21  8:37         ` Denis Vlasenko
2003-05-05 12:38         ` Pavel Machek
2003-04-19 22:02     ` Alan Cox
2003-04-20  8:41       ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-04-25  0:11     ` Stewart Smith

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