From: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
To: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [BK PATCHES] add ata scsi driver
Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 20:11:17 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030526181117.GK845@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3ED255FE.10609@pobox.com>
On Mon, May 26 2003, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> Jens Axboe wrote:
> >On Mon, May 26 2003, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> >
> >>>What does the block layer need, that it doesn't have now?
> >>
> >>Exactly. I'd _love_ for people to really think about this.
> >
> >
> >In discussion with Jeff, it seems most of what he wants is already
> >there. He just doesn't know it yet :-)
>
>
> Another important point is time.
>
> I continue to agree that a native block driver is the best direction.
>
> But with 2.6.0 looming, I think it's best to evolve my ATA driver to be
> a native block driver from a scsi one. Not start out as a native
> driver. That's significant pre-2.6 churn.
I don't think that makes any sense. If you really do find missing
functionality that are candidates to be generic block property, we can
add them.
> Or, it lives out-of-tree until 2.7 and people with SATA hardware have to
> go out-of-tree for their driver for months and months, until the working
> driver is deemed sufficiently native :) In the meantime, distros
> wanting working SATA will just ship the SCSI driver as-is. :(
I don't know why you are even worrying about this yet, time will decide
what happens. As it stands right now, I still consider your driver to be
something to play with, not something that should go into the kernel
anytime soon.
Maybe in 6 months time it has evolved to be something really great, we
add it then. Right now you are still in the design stages in some areas.
--
Jens Axboe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-05-26 17:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-05-26 4:58 [BK PATCHES] add ata scsi driver Jeff Garzik
2003-05-26 5:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-26 5:30 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-26 5:36 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-26 5:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-26 6:01 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-26 16:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-26 17:47 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-26 20:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-27 0:29 ` Alan Cox
2003-05-27 6:07 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-27 6:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-27 6:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-27 7:29 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-26 5:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-26 5:53 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-26 6:21 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-26 16:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-26 17:24 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-26 17:54 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-26 17:59 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-26 18:11 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2003-05-27 0:22 ` Alan Cox
2003-05-27 4:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-26 10:32 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2003-05-26 11:13 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-26 11:37 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2003-05-26 5:59 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-05-26 6:03 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-06-02 9:46 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-06-02 13:56 ` Alan Cox
2003-05-26 18:12 James Bottomley
2003-05-26 18:18 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-26 18:47 ` James Bottomley
2003-05-26 19:07 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-26 19:17 ` James Bottomley
2003-05-26 19:33 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-27 12:39 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-27 14:26 ` James Bottomley
2003-05-27 17:16 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-27 18:09 ` James Bottomley
2003-05-27 18:21 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-27 18:30 ` James Bottomley
2003-05-26 20:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-26 20:36 ` James Bottomley
2003-05-26 20:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-26 20:51 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-26 20:56 ` James Bottomley
2003-05-26 20:38 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-26 20:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-26 20:57 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-26 21:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-26 23:58 ` Nick Piggin
2003-05-27 0:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-27 0:49 ` Nick Piggin
2003-05-27 0:16 ` Alan Cox
2003-05-27 6:54 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-27 14:20 ` James Bottomley
2003-05-27 14:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-27 14:59 ` James Bottomley
2003-05-27 15:21 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-27 15:38 ` James Bottomley
2003-05-27 15:50 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-27 16:00 ` James Bottomley
2003-05-27 16:16 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-28 9:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-28 10:50 ` Lincoln Dale
2003-05-27 19:43 ` Jens Axboe
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