From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
To: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [BK PATCHES] add ata scsi driver
Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 23:51:48 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0305262339510.19197-100000@home.transmeta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0305262314260.18484-100000@home.transmeta.com>
On Mon, 26 May 2003, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> And quite frankly, names matter, and calling it SCSI is clearly wrong.
Btw, in case you wonder why I care about names and organization, it's
because with the names and organization comes assumptions and
expectations.
One prime example of this is cdrecord, and the incredible braindamage that
the name "SCSI" foisted upon it. Why? Because everybody (ie schily)
_knows_ that SCSI is addressed by bus/id/lun, and thinks that anything
else is wrong. So you have total idiocies like the "cdrecord -scanbus"
crap for finding your device, and totally useless naming that makes no
sense in any sane environment.
Calling something SCSI when it isn't brings on these kinds of bad things:
people make assuptions that aren't sensible or desireable.
Names have power. There's baggage and assumptions in a name. In the case
of SCSI, there is a _lot_ of baggage.
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-05-27 6:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-05-26 4:58 [BK PATCHES] add ata scsi driver Jeff Garzik
2003-05-26 5:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-26 5:30 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-26 5:36 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-26 5:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-26 6:01 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-26 16:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-26 17:47 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-26 20:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-27 0:29 ` Alan Cox
2003-05-27 6:07 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-27 6:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-27 6:51 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2003-05-27 7:29 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-26 5:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-26 5:53 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-26 6:21 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-26 16:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-26 17:24 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-26 17:54 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-26 17:59 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-26 18:11 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-27 0:22 ` Alan Cox
2003-05-27 4:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-26 10:32 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2003-05-26 11:13 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-26 11:37 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2003-05-26 5:59 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-05-26 6:03 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-06-02 9:46 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-06-02 13:56 ` Alan Cox
2003-05-26 18:12 James Bottomley
2003-05-26 18:18 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-26 18:47 ` James Bottomley
2003-05-26 19:07 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-26 19:17 ` James Bottomley
2003-05-26 19:33 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-27 12:39 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-27 14:26 ` James Bottomley
2003-05-27 17:16 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-27 18:09 ` James Bottomley
2003-05-27 18:21 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-27 18:30 ` James Bottomley
2003-05-26 20:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-26 20:36 ` James Bottomley
2003-05-26 20:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-26 20:51 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-26 20:56 ` James Bottomley
2003-05-26 20:38 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-26 20:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-26 20:57 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-26 21:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-26 23:58 ` Nick Piggin
2003-05-27 0:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-27 0:49 ` Nick Piggin
2003-05-27 0:16 ` Alan Cox
2003-05-27 6:54 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-27 14:20 ` James Bottomley
2003-05-27 14:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-27 14:59 ` James Bottomley
2003-05-27 15:21 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-27 15:38 ` James Bottomley
2003-05-27 15:50 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-27 16:00 ` James Bottomley
2003-05-27 16:16 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-28 9:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-28 10:50 ` Lincoln Dale
2003-05-27 19:43 ` Jens Axboe
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