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From: Frank Cusack <fcusack@fcusack.com>
To: viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk
Cc: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>,
	torvalds@transmeta.com, marcelo@conectiva.com.br,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] nfs_unlink() race (was: nfs_refresh_inode: inode number mismatch)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 19:43:33 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030610194333.B18623@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030611022754.GC6754@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk>; from viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk on Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 03:27:54AM +0100

On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 03:27:54AM +0100, viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 03:59:10AM +0200, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> > IOW we just want to prevent VFS from unhashing the dentry in the first
> > place: dentry aliasing cannot work together with sillyrename.
> 
> Aliasing could be dealt with.  They would have the same inode, so it's
> easy to detect.

dentry only contains the inode, not the fh.  On the server, the inode
can go away and come back as a new fh, but with the same inode.  Is
that detectable (would comparison hooks have to be added?)?  Although,
I guess the inode is enough; you can do an NFS_I(inode)->fh to get
the fh, but I wouldn't guess you'd want that in the VFS.  Bah, here
I go again ... forgive me if that's nonsense.

>  The real problem is different: what happens if I take
> silly-renamed file and rename it away?  You suddenly get ->dir and ->dentry
> if your nfs_unlinkdata having nothing to do with each other.

You could disallow rename if DCACHE_NFSFS_RENAMED is set.  That would
be easy and makes sense as an "ok" thing to do.  I mean, if you're not
going to allow unlinking of a sillyrenamed file, you may as well disallow
rename as well.

If that's not desirable (again, seems ok to me ... speaking as just a user)
then hey, in rename you just need to check the nfs_delete_queue.

> _If_ we want to be able to work with silly-renamed dentry, we need much
> more careful async unlink.  Your current code assumes that these dentries
> won't go anywhere.   AFAICS, dcache will not get into inconsistent state,
> but it will have very little to do with state of server...

OK, where else besides rename would the dentry change?

/fc

  reply	other threads:[~2003-06-11  2:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-06-03 23:54 nfs_refresh_inode: inode number mismatch Frank Cusack
2003-06-04 14:19 ` Trond Myklebust
2003-06-04 21:20   ` Frank Cusack
2003-06-04 21:28     ` Trond Myklebust
2003-06-09 13:51       ` [PATCH] nfs_unlink() race (was: nfs_refresh_inode: inode number mismatch) Frank Cusack
2003-06-09 13:55         ` Frank Cusack
2003-06-09 15:53         ` Linus Torvalds
2003-06-09 16:40           ` Trond Myklebust
2003-06-09 20:46             ` Frank Cusack
2003-06-10  0:01               ` Trond Myklebust
2003-06-11  0:54         ` viro
2003-06-11  1:28           ` Frank Cusack
2003-06-11  1:47             ` viro
2003-06-11  2:32               ` Frank Cusack
2003-06-11  2:37                 ` viro
2003-06-11  1:59           ` Trond Myklebust
2003-06-11  2:27             ` viro
2003-06-11  2:43               ` Frank Cusack [this message]
2003-06-11  2:50                 ` Frank Cusack
2003-06-11  3:00                 ` viro
2003-06-11  7:22                   ` [PATCH] NFS sillyrename fixes (was: [PATCH] nfs_unlink() race) Frank Cusack
2003-06-13  0:19                     ` [PATCH] NFS sillyrename fixes take 3 Frank Cusack
2003-06-11  3:00               ` [PATCH] nfs_unlink() race (was: nfs_refresh_inode: inode number mismatch) Trond Myklebust
2003-06-11  5:30           ` Linus Torvalds
2003-06-11  6:16             ` Andreas Dilger
2003-06-11 12:33             ` Alan Cox
2003-06-11 15:08               ` Linus Torvalds
2003-06-11 15:51                 ` Alan Cox
2003-06-11 16:11                   ` Linus Torvalds
2003-06-11 16:21                     ` Alan Cox
2003-06-11 16:31                       ` Linus Torvalds
2003-06-11 16:34                         ` viro
2003-06-11 17:22                         ` Alan Cox
2003-06-11 17:37                           ` Trond Myklebust
2003-06-11 17:47                             ` Trond Myklebust
2003-06-12 21:59                               ` Jan Harkes
     [not found]                             ` <16103.29804.198545.680701@charged.uio.no>
2003-06-11 22:24                               ` Frank Cusack
2003-06-11 23:16                                 ` Trond Myklebust
2003-06-11 23:35                                   ` [PATCH] nfs_unlink() race Frank Cusack
2003-06-05  9:11     ` nfs_refresh_inode: inode number mismatch Adrian Cox
2003-06-05  9:13       ` Russell King
2003-06-05 13:51         ` Trond Myklebust

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