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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk,
	Frank Cusack <fcusack@fcusack.com>,
	Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@conectiva.com.br>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] nfs_unlink() race (was: nfs_refresh_inode: inode number mismatch)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 08:08:56 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0306110804360.4413-100000@home.transmeta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1055334814.2084.12.camel@dhcp22.swansea.linux.org.uk>


On 11 Jun 2003, Alan Cox wrote:
> 
> For vfat at least its all broken. 

Looks like a different issue, not dentry aliasing per se.

> cd foo
> mv ../file .
> more file
> 
> ESTALE.

Yes, VFAT ends up encoding the parent directory in the FH, so renaming 
will invalidate the old file handle, and if you cache inodes (and thus 
filehandles) over a directory move, badness happens.

Arguably it's a NFS client problem - the path revalidate at open time 
should have caught the ESTALE and forced a new inode lookup. But I think 
you can also argue that VFAT over NFS is just non-unixy enough that it 
just isn't really "supported".

I think it's more of a "you can NFS-export strange filesystems for some
limited file sharing, but if things break, you get to keep both pieces".

		Linus


  reply	other threads:[~2003-06-11 14:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-06-03 23:54 nfs_refresh_inode: inode number mismatch Frank Cusack
2003-06-04 14:19 ` Trond Myklebust
2003-06-04 21:20   ` Frank Cusack
2003-06-04 21:28     ` Trond Myklebust
2003-06-09 13:51       ` [PATCH] nfs_unlink() race (was: nfs_refresh_inode: inode number mismatch) Frank Cusack
2003-06-09 13:55         ` Frank Cusack
2003-06-09 15:53         ` Linus Torvalds
2003-06-09 16:40           ` Trond Myklebust
2003-06-09 20:46             ` Frank Cusack
2003-06-10  0:01               ` Trond Myklebust
2003-06-11  0:54         ` viro
2003-06-11  1:28           ` Frank Cusack
2003-06-11  1:47             ` viro
2003-06-11  2:32               ` Frank Cusack
2003-06-11  2:37                 ` viro
2003-06-11  1:59           ` Trond Myklebust
2003-06-11  2:27             ` viro
2003-06-11  2:43               ` Frank Cusack
2003-06-11  2:50                 ` Frank Cusack
2003-06-11  3:00                 ` viro
2003-06-11  7:22                   ` [PATCH] NFS sillyrename fixes (was: [PATCH] nfs_unlink() race) Frank Cusack
2003-06-13  0:19                     ` [PATCH] NFS sillyrename fixes take 3 Frank Cusack
2003-06-11  3:00               ` [PATCH] nfs_unlink() race (was: nfs_refresh_inode: inode number mismatch) Trond Myklebust
2003-06-11  5:30           ` Linus Torvalds
2003-06-11  6:16             ` Andreas Dilger
2003-06-11 12:33             ` Alan Cox
2003-06-11 15:08               ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2003-06-11 15:51                 ` Alan Cox
2003-06-11 16:11                   ` Linus Torvalds
2003-06-11 16:21                     ` Alan Cox
2003-06-11 16:31                       ` Linus Torvalds
2003-06-11 16:34                         ` viro
2003-06-11 17:22                         ` Alan Cox
2003-06-11 17:37                           ` Trond Myklebust
2003-06-11 17:47                             ` Trond Myklebust
2003-06-12 21:59                               ` Jan Harkes
     [not found]                             ` <16103.29804.198545.680701@charged.uio.no>
2003-06-11 22:24                               ` Frank Cusack
2003-06-11 23:16                                 ` Trond Myklebust
2003-06-11 23:35                                   ` [PATCH] nfs_unlink() race Frank Cusack
2003-06-05  9:11     ` nfs_refresh_inode: inode number mismatch Adrian Cox
2003-06-05  9:13       ` Russell King
2003-06-05 13:51         ` Trond Myklebust

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