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From: Tommi Virtanen  <tv-nospam.da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709@tv.debian.net>
To: Werner Almesberger <wa@almesberger.net>
Cc: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>,
	sdake@mvista.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] udev enhancements to use kernel event queue
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 15:17:07 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030626121707.GA10603@lapdog> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030619165135.C6248@almesberger.net>

On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 04:51:35PM -0300, Werner Almesberger wrote:
> 4) Losses:
> 
> Actually, I'm not so sure what really ought to happen with
> losses. If we have serialization requirements elsewhere,
> proceeding after unrecovered losses would probably mean that
> they're being violated. So if they can be violated then,
> maybe there is some leeway in other circumstances too ?
> 
> On the other hand, if any loss means that major surgery is
> needed, the interface should probably have a "in loss" state,
> in which it just shuts down until someone cleans up the mess.
> Also a partial shutdown may be interesting (e.g. implemented
> by the dispatcher), where events with no interdependencies
> with other events would still be processed.

	One thing came to my mind:

	If you have a sysfs-scanning method for startup, couldn't you
	just make the sequence-number-checking daemon reset its state
	and redo the sysfs scan on loss of events? (Or even make it
	just exec itself and use the exact same code as at startup.)

	That way the system recovers from event loss (or a reordering
	that gets the earlier event too late and is believed to be a
	loss) in a way that needs to work anyway, and isn't a magic
	special case.

-- 
:(){ :|:&};:

  reply	other threads:[~2003-06-26 13:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-06-12 19:10 [PATCH] udev enhancements to use kernel event queue Steven Dake
2003-06-12 21:47 ` Patrick Mochel
2003-06-13 16:31   ` Steven Dake
2003-06-13 17:06     ` Patrick Mochel
2003-06-12 21:47 ` Greg KH
2003-06-12 22:03   ` Andrew Morton
2003-06-12 22:50     ` Greg KH
2003-06-12 22:51       ` Andrew Morton
2003-06-12 23:02         ` Greg KH
2003-06-12 23:09           ` Greg KH
2003-06-12 23:14             ` Patrick Mochel
2003-06-12 23:16             ` Robert Love
2003-06-12 23:25               ` Greg KH
2003-06-13 20:01                 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-06-18 22:59                   ` Greg KH
2003-06-19  0:12                     ` Kevin P. Fleming
2003-06-19  0:20                       ` Greg KH
2003-06-19  0:42                         ` Kevin P. Fleming
2003-06-19  0:51                           ` Greg KH
2003-06-19  0:25                       ` Andrew Morton
2003-06-19  6:27                       ` Oliver Neukum
2003-06-12 23:25               ` Patrick Mochel
2003-06-12 23:29                 ` Robert Love
2003-06-12 23:32                   ` Greg KH
2003-06-12 23:34                   ` Patrick Mochel
2003-06-12 23:40                     ` Paul Mackerras
2003-06-12 23:50                       ` Robert Love
2003-06-13 12:44                         ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-06-13 12:54                           ` Olivier Galibert
2003-06-12 23:52                       ` Patrick Mochel
2003-06-13  8:41                       ` Alan Cox
2003-06-13 11:00                         ` Paul Mackerras
2003-06-13 11:07                           ` Herbert Xu
2003-06-13 13:31                           ` Alan Cox
2003-06-13 19:57                             ` Joe Korty
2003-06-13 21:10                               ` Alan Cox
2003-06-13 11:17                       ` David Schwartz
2003-06-13 15:44                         ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-12 23:42                     ` Robert Love
2003-06-12 23:45                     ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-12 23:05       ` Robert Love
2003-06-19 19:51       ` Werner Almesberger
2003-06-26 12:17         ` Tommi Virtanen [this message]
2003-06-26 14:35           ` Werner Almesberger
2003-06-13  8:40     ` Alan Cox
2003-06-13  9:14       ` Olivier Galibert
2003-06-19 20:53         ` Werner Almesberger
2003-06-13 16:05       ` Steven Dake
2003-06-13 16:32       ` Greg KH
2003-06-13 15:51   ` Steven Dake
2003-06-13 16:41     ` Patrick Mochel
2003-06-13 16:42     ` Greg KH
2003-06-13 17:17       ` Chris Friesen
2003-06-12 22:27 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-06-13 16:03   ` Steven Dake
2003-06-13 16:50     ` Patrick Mochel
2003-06-13 17:10       ` Steven Dake
2003-06-13 18:26         ` Greg KH
2003-06-13 19:02         ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-06-13 17:32     ` Oliver Neukum
2003-06-13 18:23     ` Greg KH
2003-06-13 18:24     ` Greg KH
2003-06-13  7:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-06-13 18:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-06-19 23:32   ` Werner Almesberger
2003-06-19 23:42     ` Steven Dake
2003-06-20  0:05       ` Linus Torvalds
2003-06-20  0:10         ` Steven Dake
2003-06-20  0:43           ` Linus Torvalds
2003-06-20  2:26             ` Werner Almesberger
2003-06-20 17:03             ` Steven Dake
2003-06-20 17:18               ` Patrick Mochel
2003-06-14  6:36 John Bradford

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