From: Steven Dake <sdake@mvista.com>
To: Werner Almesberger <wa@almesberger.net>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] udev enhancements to use kernel event queue
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 16:42:40 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3EF24A70.4010608@mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030619203230.E6248@almesberger.net>
Werner Almesberger wrote:
>Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
>
>>[ Event demons ] encourage doing everything in one program,
>>keeping state in private memory, depending on ordering, and just
>>generally do bad things.
>>
>>
>
>Well, the ordering bit is the hairy part. As long as it doesn't
>matter if an event gets lost every once in a while, and in which
>order they get processed, things are fine as they are.
>
>But then it scares me to see people start to try to design some
>general serialization mechanism on top of /sbin/hotplug
>
>
A serialization methodology can be built on /sbin/hotplug, but it has
all of the problems that Linus previously talked about for a kernel
event queue. The difference is that the problem is moved to userland.
>- Werner
>
>
-steve
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-06-19 23:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-06-12 19:10 [PATCH] udev enhancements to use kernel event queue Steven Dake
2003-06-12 21:47 ` Patrick Mochel
2003-06-13 16:31 ` Steven Dake
2003-06-13 17:06 ` Patrick Mochel
2003-06-12 21:47 ` Greg KH
2003-06-12 22:03 ` Andrew Morton
2003-06-12 22:50 ` Greg KH
2003-06-12 22:51 ` Andrew Morton
2003-06-12 23:02 ` Greg KH
2003-06-12 23:09 ` Greg KH
2003-06-12 23:14 ` Patrick Mochel
2003-06-12 23:16 ` Robert Love
2003-06-12 23:25 ` Greg KH
2003-06-13 20:01 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-06-18 22:59 ` Greg KH
2003-06-19 0:12 ` Kevin P. Fleming
2003-06-19 0:20 ` Greg KH
2003-06-19 0:42 ` Kevin P. Fleming
2003-06-19 0:51 ` Greg KH
2003-06-19 0:25 ` Andrew Morton
2003-06-19 6:27 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-06-12 23:25 ` Patrick Mochel
2003-06-12 23:29 ` Robert Love
2003-06-12 23:32 ` Greg KH
2003-06-12 23:34 ` Patrick Mochel
2003-06-12 23:40 ` Paul Mackerras
2003-06-12 23:50 ` Robert Love
2003-06-13 12:44 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-06-13 12:54 ` Olivier Galibert
2003-06-12 23:52 ` Patrick Mochel
2003-06-13 8:41 ` Alan Cox
2003-06-13 11:00 ` Paul Mackerras
2003-06-13 11:07 ` Herbert Xu
2003-06-13 13:31 ` Alan Cox
2003-06-13 19:57 ` Joe Korty
2003-06-13 21:10 ` Alan Cox
2003-06-13 11:17 ` David Schwartz
2003-06-13 15:44 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-12 23:42 ` Robert Love
2003-06-12 23:45 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-12 23:05 ` Robert Love
2003-06-19 19:51 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-06-26 12:17 ` Tommi Virtanen
2003-06-26 14:35 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-06-13 8:40 ` Alan Cox
2003-06-13 9:14 ` Olivier Galibert
2003-06-19 20:53 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-06-13 16:05 ` Steven Dake
2003-06-13 16:32 ` Greg KH
2003-06-13 15:51 ` Steven Dake
2003-06-13 16:41 ` Patrick Mochel
2003-06-13 16:42 ` Greg KH
2003-06-13 17:17 ` Chris Friesen
2003-06-12 22:27 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-06-13 16:03 ` Steven Dake
2003-06-13 16:50 ` Patrick Mochel
2003-06-13 17:10 ` Steven Dake
2003-06-13 18:26 ` Greg KH
2003-06-13 19:02 ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-06-13 17:32 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-06-13 18:23 ` Greg KH
2003-06-13 18:24 ` Greg KH
2003-06-13 7:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-06-13 18:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-06-19 23:32 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-06-19 23:42 ` Steven Dake [this message]
2003-06-20 0:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-06-20 0:10 ` Steven Dake
2003-06-20 0:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-06-20 2:26 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-06-20 17:03 ` Steven Dake
2003-06-20 17:18 ` Patrick Mochel
2003-06-14 6:36 John Bradford
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