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From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@arcor.de>
To: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
Cc: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: 2.5.74-mm1
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 14:24:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200307071424.06393.phillips@arcor.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.53.0307071042470.743@skynet>

On Monday 07 July 2003 12:00, Mel Gorman wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Jul 2003, Daniel Phillips wrote:
> > > > What are you going to do if you have one
> > > > application you want to take priority, re-nice the other 50?
> > >
> > > Is that effective?  It might be just the trick.
> >
> > Point.
>
> Alternatively, how about using PAM to grant the CAP_SYS_NICE capability to
> known interactive users that require it. Presumably the number of users
> that require it is very small (in the case of the music player, only one)
> so it wouldn't be a major security issue.

And set up distros to grant it by default.  Yes.

The problem I see is that it lets user space priorities invade the range of 
priorities used by root processes.  What's really needed is a range of 
negative priorities available to normal users that are not normally used by 
root.

In retrospect, the idea of renicing all the applications but the realtime one  
doesn't work, because it doesn't take care of applications started 
afterwards. 

> There is something along these lines at http://www.pamcap.org but it
> requires some patching to the kernel (only available against 2.4.18
> currently) to inherit capabilities across exec and, from what I gather at
> a quick glance, to allow capabilities to be set for a process group.

Regards,

Daniel


  reply	other threads:[~2003-07-07 12:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 147+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-03  9:37 2.5.74-mm1 Andrew Morton
2003-07-03 10:37 ` 2.5.74-mm1 Wiktor Wodecki
2003-07-03 11:06   ` 2.5.74-mm1 Russell King
2003-07-03 14:15     ` 2.5.74-mm1 Russell King
2003-07-03 16:05       ` 2.5.74-mm1 Patrick Mochel
2003-07-03 16:19         ` 2.5.74-mm1 Russell King
2003-07-03 16:24           ` 2.5.74-mm1 Patrick Mochel
2003-07-03 16:47       ` 2.5.74-mm1 Wiktor Wodecki
2003-07-03 18:43       ` 2.5.74-mm1 Serge Eric Thiam
2003-07-03 21:49       ` 2.5.74-mm1 Wiktor Wodecki
2003-07-03 21:53         ` 2.5.74-mm1 Russell King
2003-07-03 22:12           ` 2.5.74-mm1 Patrick Mochel
2003-07-03 22:14         ` 2.5.74-mm1 Russell King
2003-07-04  8:00           ` 2.5.74-mm1 Wiktor Wodecki
2003-07-03 11:27   ` pcmcia problem [was: Re: 2.5.74-mm1] Wiktor Wodecki
2003-07-03 10:45 ` 2.5.74-mm1 (p4-clockmod does not compile) Dumitru Ciobarcianu
2003-07-03 11:07   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-03 11:17     ` Dumitru Ciobarcianu
2003-07-03 11:20       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-03 11:32         ` 2.5.74-mm1 (p4-clockmod does not compile) PATCH Dumitru Ciobarcianu
2003-07-07  5:24         ` 2.5.74-mm1 (p4-clockmod does not compile) Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-07-07  5:47           ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-03 13:15 ` o1-interactivity.patch (was Re: 2.5.74-mm1) Sean Neakums
2003-07-03 13:30   ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-03 16:02 ` 2.5.74-mm1 Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-07-03 18:11 ` 2.5.74-mm1 Pasi Savolainen
2003-07-03 20:25 ` 2.5.74-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-03 20:48   ` 2.5.74-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04  8:55 ` 2.5.74-mm1 fails to boot due to APIC trouble, 2.5.73mm3 works Helge Hafting
2003-07-04  8:53   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04  9:35   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04  9:50     ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04 10:02       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04 10:07         ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04 11:12           ` Helge Hafting
2003-07-04 11:10             ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04 12:50             ` Vincent Hanquez
2003-07-04 15:41       ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-07-04 15:47         ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-07-04 16:18           ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-07-04 16:16             ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-07-04 18:31             ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04 19:20               ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-07-04 19:31                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04 19:53                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-07-04 20:17                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04 18:32             ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04 18:36             ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04 18:29           ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04 18:26         ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04 19:38           ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-07-04 20:07             ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04 20:37               ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-07-04 21:07 ` 2.5.74-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-05  1:15   ` 2.5.74-mm1 Andrew Morton
2003-07-05  5:21     ` 2.5.74-mm1 Anton Blanchard
2003-07-05 11:18       ` 2.5.74-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-05 11:46         ` 2.5.74-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-05 10:44     ` 2.5.74-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-05 18:43       ` 2.5.74-mm1 Andrew Morton
2003-07-05 21:17         ` 2.5.74-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-05 21:27           ` 2.5.74-mm1 Andrew Morton
2003-07-05 22:03             ` 2.5.74-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-05  0:16 ` 2.5.74-mm1 Daniel Phillips
2003-07-05 15:28   ` 2.5.74-mm1 Daniel Phillips
2003-07-05 16:01     ` 2.5.74-mm1 Con Kolivas
2003-07-05 17:47       ` 2.5.74-mm1 Daniel Phillips
2003-07-06  3:41         ` 2.5.74-mm1 Con Kolivas
2003-07-06 18:50           ` 2.5.74-mm1 Daniel Phillips
2003-07-05 19:14     ` 2.5.74-mm1 Andrew Morton
2003-07-05 21:09       ` 2.5.74-mm1 Daniel Phillips
2003-07-05 21:44         ` 2.5.74-mm1 Jamie Lokier
2003-07-05 22:10           ` 2.5.74-mm1 Daniel Phillips
2003-07-06  1:28             ` 2.5.74-mm1 Jamie Lokier
2003-07-06  2:14               ` 2.5.74-mm1 Daniel Phillips
2003-07-06  2:21                 ` 2.5.74-mm1 Davide Libenzi
2003-07-06 13:54                   ` 2.5.74-mm1 Daniel Phillips
2003-07-07 10:00                 ` 2.5.74-mm1 Mel Gorman
2003-07-07 12:24                   ` Daniel Phillips [this message]
2003-07-07 13:09                     ` 2.5.74-mm1 Alex Riesen
2003-07-07 14:33                       ` 2.5.74-mm1 Daniel Phillips
2003-07-07 14:34                         ` 2.5.74-mm1 Alex Riesen
2003-07-07 13:16                     ` 2.5.74-mm1 Mel Gorman
2003-07-07 14:47                       ` 2.5.74-mm1 Davide Libenzi
2003-07-07 15:23                         ` 2.5.74-mm1 Jamie Lokier
2003-07-07 17:25                           ` 2.5.74-mm1 Davide Libenzi
2003-07-07 17:55                             ` 2.5.74-mm1 Daniel Phillips
2003-07-07 18:36                               ` 2.5.74-mm1 Davide Libenzi
2003-07-07 19:07                                 ` 2.5.74-mm1 Daniel Phillips
2003-07-07 22:03                                   ` 2.5.74-mm1 Davide Libenzi
2003-07-08  0:13                                     ` 2.5.74-mm1 Daniel Phillips
2003-07-08  0:29                                       ` 2.5.74-mm1 Davide Libenzi
2003-07-08  1:07                                         ` 2.5.74-mm1 Daniel Phillips
2003-07-08  7:48                                           ` 2.5.74-mm1 Davide Libenzi
2003-07-08  9:18                                             ` 2.5.74-mm1 Nick Piggin
2003-07-08 15:24                                               ` 2.5.74-mm1 Davide Libenzi
2003-07-09  0:36                                                 ` 2.5.74-mm1 Nick Piggin
2003-07-08 11:09                                             ` 2.5.74-mm1 Daniel Phillips
2003-07-08 18:19                                               ` 2.5.74-mm1 Davide Libenzi
2003-07-08 19:12                                                 ` 2.5.74-mm1 Davide Libenzi
2003-07-07 19:39                                 ` 2.5.74-mm1 Jamie Lokier
2003-07-07 19:36                             ` 2.5.74-mm1 Jamie Lokier
2003-07-09 22:17                               ` 2.5.74-mm1 Daniel Phillips
2003-07-09 22:24                                 ` 2.5.74-mm1 Jamie Lokier
2003-07-09 22:29                                   ` 2.5.74-mm1 Davide Libenzi
2003-07-09 23:15                                     ` 2.5.74-mm1 Daniel Phillips
2003-07-09 23:19                                       ` 2.5.74-mm1 Jamie Lokier
2003-07-09 22:59                                   ` 2.5.74-mm1 Daniel Phillips
2003-07-10  2:01                                     ` 2.5.74-mm1 Peter Chubb
2003-07-11  1:04                                       ` 2.5.74-mm1 Daniel Phillips
2003-07-11  1:08                                         ` 2.5.74-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-11  5:44                                         ` 2.5.74-mm1 Davide Libenzi
2003-07-11  8:07                                           ` 2.5.74-mm1 Daniel Phillips
2003-07-07 15:28                         ` 2.5.74-mm1 Daniel Phillips
2003-07-07 17:58                           ` 2.5.74-mm1 Davide Libenzi
     [not found]                     ` <Pine.LNX.4.55.0307070745250.4428@bigblue.dev.mcafeelabs.co m>
2003-07-07 17:15                       ` 2.5.74-mm1 Mike Galbraith
2003-07-05 22:11         ` 2.5.74-mm1 Diego Calleja García
2003-07-05 23:31           ` 2.5.74-mm1 Daniel Phillips
2003-07-06  0:23             ` 2.5.74-mm1 Diego Calleja García
2003-07-06 22:59               ` 2.5.74-mm1 Jamie Lokier
2003-07-06  2:29           ` 2.5.74-mm1 Davide Libenzi
2003-07-06  0:10       ` 2.5.74-mm1 Daniel Phillips
2003-07-06  0:10         ` 2.5.74-mm1 Davide Libenzi
2003-07-05 19:40     ` 2.5.74-mm1 Diego Calleja García
2003-07-05 19:48       ` 2.5.74-mm1 Davide Libenzi
2003-07-05 21:22       ` 2.5.74-mm1 Daniel Phillips
2003-07-07 13:38 ` OOPS: 2.5.74-mm2 Maciej Soltysiak
2003-07-03 10:39 2.5.74-mm1 Boszormenyi Zoltan
2003-07-03 13:09 ` 2.5.74-mm1 Boszormenyi Zoltan
2003-07-03 19:22   ` 2.5.74-mm1 Andrew Morton
2003-07-03 20:08     ` 2.5.74-mm1 Helge Hafting
2003-07-03 21:15       ` 2.5.74-mm1 Andrew Morton
2003-07-04  5:53         ` 2.5.74-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04  7:12           ` 2.5.74-mm1 Boszormenyi Zoltan
2003-07-04  7:16             ` 2.5.74-mm1 Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-07-04  7:15           ` 2.5.74-mm1 Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-07-04  7:50             ` 2.5.74-mm1 Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-07-04  8:27             ` 2.5.74-mm1 Andrew Morton
2003-07-04  8:37               ` 2.5.74-mm1 Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-07-04  8:56                 ` 2.5.74-mm1 Andrew Morton
2003-07-04  8:57                   ` 2.5.74-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04  8:52               ` 2.5.74-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-04 20:00         ` 2.5.74-mm1 Helge Hafting
2003-07-04 20:08           ` 2.5.74-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-03 22:26       ` 2.5.74-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-03 23:01         ` 2.5.74-mm1 Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-07-03 23:16     ` 2.5.74-mm1 William Lee Irwin III

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