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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>,
	Eric Varsanyi <e0206@foo21.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru
Subject: Re: POLLRDONCE optimisation for epoll users (was: epoll and half closed TCP connections)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 04:42:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030714034244.GC23534@mail.jlokier.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.55.0307132018200.15022@bigblue.dev.mcafeelabs.com>

Davide Libenzi wrote:
> > > > 	(a) fd isn't a socket
> > > > 	(b) fd isn't a TCP socket
> > > > 	(c) kernel version <= 2.5.75
> > > > 	(d) SO_RCVLOWAT < s
> > > > 	(e) there is urgent data with OOBINLINE (I think)
> >
> > > Jamie, did you smoke that stuff again ? :)
> > > With Eric patch in the proper places it is just fine. You just make
> > > f_op->poll() to report the extra flag other that POLLIN. What's the problem ?
> >
> > The problem in cases (a)-(e) is your loop will call read() just once
> > when it needs to call read() until it sees EAGAIN.
> >
> > What's wrong is the behaviour of your program when the extra flag
> > _isn't_ set.
> 
> Jamie, the loop will call read(2) until data is available. With the trick
> of checking the returned number of bytes you can avoid the extra EAGAIN
> read(2). That's the point of the read(2) trick.

That _only_ works if none of those conditions (a)-(e) applies.
Otherwise, short reads are possible when there is more to come.

Sure, if you're willing to assert that the program is running on
kernel >= 2.5.76, all its fds are for sure TCP sockets and you added
the POLLPRI check, then yes it's fine.

I think mine is better because it works always, and you are free to
code the optimisation in any programs, libraries etc.

> The final check for RDHUP will tell that it has no more to wait for
> POLLINs since there's no more someone sending.

Sure, _that_ check is fine.

-- Jamie

  reply	other threads:[~2003-07-14  3:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-12 18:16 [Patch][RFC] epoll and half closed TCP connections Eric Varsanyi
2003-07-12 19:44 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-12 20:51   ` Eric Varsanyi
2003-07-12 20:48     ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-12 21:19       ` Eric Varsanyi
2003-07-12 21:20         ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-12 21:41         ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-12 23:11           ` Eric Varsanyi
2003-07-12 23:55             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-13  1:05               ` Eric Varsanyi
2003-07-13 20:32       ` David Schwartz
2003-07-13 21:10         ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-13 23:05           ` David Schwartz
2003-07-13 23:09             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  8:14               ` Alan Cox
2003-07-14 15:03                 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  1:27             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-13 21:14         ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-13 23:05           ` David Schwartz
2003-07-13 23:11             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-13 23:52             ` Entrope
2003-07-14  6:14               ` David Schwartz
2003-07-14  7:20                 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  1:51             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  6:14               ` David Schwartz
2003-07-15 20:27             ` James Antill
2003-07-16  1:46               ` David Schwartz
2003-07-16  2:09                 ` James Antill
2003-07-13 13:12     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-13 16:55       ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-12 20:01 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-13  5:24   ` David S. Miller
2003-07-13 14:07     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-13 17:00       ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-13 19:15         ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-13 23:03           ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  1:41             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  2:24               ` POLLRDONCE optimisation for epoll users (was: epoll and half closed TCP connections) Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  2:37                 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  2:43                   ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  2:56                   ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  3:02                     ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  3:16                       ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  3:21                         ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  3:42                           ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2003-07-14  4:00                             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  5:51                               ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  6:24                                 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  6:57                                   ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  3:12                     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  3:17                       ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  3:35                         ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  3:04                   ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14  3:12                     ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14  3:27                       ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-14 17:09     ` [Patch][RFC] epoll and half closed TCP connections kuznet
2003-07-14 17:09       ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-14 21:45       ` Jamie Lokier

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