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From: "Jörn Engel" <joern@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>,
	Pascal Schmidt <der.eremit@email.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: bandwidth for bkbits.net (good news)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 17:38:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030831153839.GC30196@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030831144505.GS24409@dualathlon.random>

On Sun, 31 August 2003 16:45:05 +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 02:15:12PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> > On Sul, 2003-08-31 at 03:56, Larry McVoy wrote:
> > > I'm pretty convinced we can't solve the problem at our end.  Maybe we can
> > 
> > For bursts of traffic you can't.
> 
> what's the difference of rejecting packets in software, or because the
> link can't handle them?

Nothing, packets are always rejected in software. :)

> it works flawlessy for me and it's the same problem (I also use
> streaming services), and they're unusable until I turn the shaping on,
> I'm sure that if you use the script and you change 1kbyte/sec to
> everything but voip it'll work fine for you too, since basically
> everything else won't pass anymore, it will take ages to open an html
> page and all the bkbits.net users will hang, and the link will be idle
> 99% of the time, so voip will take it over as much as it can. I don't
> think it's a matter of "if it works or not", I think it's a matter of
> how much you're ok to lose in terms of global bandwith for all the other
> services but voip.

Yes, that should work for well behaved traffic.  You have to leave
more breathing room compared to your provider doing the traffic
shaping for you, but it is also more flexible than one line for each
VOIP and the rest.

Still, I don't like the idea of throwing away those packets that have
made it through the bottleneck. :)

Jörn

-- 
The strong give up and move away, while the weak give up and stay.
-- unknown

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-08-31 15:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found]   ` <qgCn.2y4.11@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-08-30 22:58     ` bandwidth for bkbits.net (good news) Pascal Schmidt
2003-08-30 23:07       ` Larry McVoy
2003-08-31  1:05         ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-08-31  1:39           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-31  2:18             ` Jeff Sipek
2003-08-31  2:42               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-31  2:56             ` Larry McVoy
2003-08-31 13:15               ` Alan Cox
2003-08-31 14:45                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-31 15:31                   ` Alan Cox
2003-08-31 15:43                     ` Jörn Engel
2003-08-31 15:50                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-31 17:06                         ` Florian Weimer
2003-08-31 21:21                           ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-02  7:06                           ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-09-05  8:10                             ` Florian Weimer
2003-09-05 15:35                               ` Henning Schmiedehausen
2003-09-05 15:50                                 ` Florian Weimer
2003-09-05 16:10                                 ` P
2003-09-05 16:43                                 ` Ricky Beam
2003-09-07 11:55                                   ` Henning Schmiedehausen
2003-09-07 18:41                                     ` Ricky Beam
2003-09-08  8:57                                       ` [COMPLETELY OFF-TOPIC] " Henning Schmiedehausen
2003-09-02 21:52                           ` Ricky Beam
2003-09-05  8:16                             ` Florian Weimer
2003-08-31 15:44                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-31 16:22                       ` Larry McVoy
2003-08-31 16:33                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-31 16:48                           ` Larry McVoy
2003-08-31 17:06                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-31 21:18                               ` Larry McVoy
2003-08-31 22:49                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-31 22:52                                   ` Alan Cox
2003-08-31 22:58                                     ` Larry McVoy
2003-08-31 23:02                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-31 23:07                                       ` Larry McVoy
2003-08-31 23:22                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-01  0:12                                           ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-01  0:19                                             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-01  0:33                                               ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-01 11:43                                           ` Alan Cox
2003-09-01 16:13                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-01 16:24                                               ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-01 16:28                                               ` Alan Cox
2003-09-01 16:38                                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-31 23:39                                     ` Roman Zippel
2003-09-01  0:09                                       ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-01  0:20                                         ` Larry McVoy
2003-08-31 22:56                                   ` Larry McVoy
2003-08-31 23:13                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-01  0:18                                       ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-01  0:25                                         ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-01  0:28                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-01  0:50                                           ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-01  1:10                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-01  1:33                                               ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-02  7:11                                   ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-09-02  7:01                       ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-08-31 16:23                     ` Larry McVoy
2003-08-31 16:36                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-31 15:38                   ` Jörn Engel [this message]
2003-09-02  6:55               ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-08-31 13:47             ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-08-31 14:51               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-02  6:53           ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-08-31  6:30       ` Jörn Engel
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     [not found]   ` <rdje.1sH.11@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-09-02 17:49     ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-08-30  1:29 Larry McVoy
2003-08-30 15:03 ` Larry McVoy
2003-08-30 16:10   ` Jörn Engel
2003-08-31 10:13   ` Toon van der Pas

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