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From: Andrew Walrond <andrew@walrond.org>
To: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: kernel.bkbits.net off the air
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:10:26 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200311131010.27315.andrew@walrond.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031111235215.GA22314@work.bitmover.com>

> > 2. Persuade Larry to release a 'clone/pull-only' version of bk which
> > *anyone* can use to  access open source software
>
> As I've explained in the past, this doesn't make sense.  I'd be far more
> likely to build a sort of CVS like client that could do checkouts and
> updates of read only files.  That's a pretty straightforward thing to
> do, in fact, nobody needs BK source to do that, it could all be done as

I'm a bit confused (not unusual). I think what I'm suggesting is exactly what 
you've just described and doesn't involve releasing any bk source; Release a 
binary only tool which will clone and pull only, (Ie can be used to access 
open source software but not develop it) which is free of the license 
restrictions of the full bk (ie can be used to access open source software by 
anybody, regardless of what they might be working on)

Or am I missing something? How does this hurt the bk business model?

> I could make some comment about this being a good example of one of
> the zillion little problems we've had to solve but if I go there it's
> going to start a flame war.  So I won't.  I will note that none of the
> solutions proposed come close to being acceptable, they all fail on NFS
> and on SMB shares.  And they don't cascade properly as HPA has noted.

Absolutely. Bk is, undeniably, brilliant, and would solve all these problems 
at a stroke, except that the open source community cannot with good 
conscience exclude *anyone* from being able to access the sources.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-11-13 10:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <fa.onl48uv.1tmeb21@ifi.uio.no>
2003-11-11 14:14   ` kernel.bkbits.net off the air walt
2003-11-11 14:38     ` Andrew Walrond
2003-11-11 15:05       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-11 19:43       ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-11 20:21         ` Andrew Walrond
2003-11-11 20:38           ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-11 23:52           ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-12  0:19             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-13 10:10             ` Andrew Walrond [this message]
2003-11-13 16:27               ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-13 16:43                 ` Mark Mielke
2003-11-13 17:14                 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-13 17:20                   ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-14  3:01                     ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-13 18:21                   ` Tupshin Harper
2003-11-14  7:14                     ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-11-14  9:48                       ` Tupshin Harper
2003-11-14  9:56                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-11-14 21:51                       ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-11-14 22:55                       ` Roman Zippel
2003-11-13 19:17                 ` Andrew Walrond
2003-11-13 19:28                   ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-13 20:57                     ` Andrew Walrond
2003-11-13 21:17                       ` Sam Ravnborg
2003-11-14 14:54                         ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-14 15:00                       ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-14 16:24                         ` Andrew Walrond
2003-11-14 16:46                           ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-14 17:34                             ` Andrew Walrond
2003-11-14 17:43                               ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-14 18:17                                 ` Andrew Walrond
2003-11-16  5:12                                 ` Sven Dowideit
2003-11-18 15:30                                   ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-18 18:30                                     ` Ben Collins
2003-11-18 18:42                                       ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-18 22:53                                         ` Sven Dowideit
2003-11-19  0:24                                         ` Andrew Walrond
2003-11-19  0:38                                           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-11-19 10:26                                             ` Andrew Walrond
2003-11-19  0:49                                           ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-19 10:45                                             ` Andrew Walrond
2003-11-18 18:42                                       ` Timothy Miller
2003-11-14 16:35                         ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-14 16:48                           ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-14 17:03                             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-14 17:04                               ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-14 17:08                                 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-14 17:10                                   ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-16  4:57                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-13 21:54                     ` Eli Carter
2003-11-13 23:32                 ` Daniel Egger
2003-11-14  9:56                   ` Nick Piggin
2003-11-14 11:38                     ` Daniel Egger
2003-11-15  3:02                       ` Nick Piggin
2003-11-15  3:22                         ` Linus Torvalds
2003-11-15  3:41                           ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-15  3:49                             ` Linus Torvalds
2003-11-15  4:04                               ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-15 21:09                         ` Daniel Egger
2003-11-18  9:59                 ` Pavel Machek
2003-11-18 15:01                   ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-13  0:45           ` Ryan Anderson
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2003-11-18 19:38                 ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-11-19 14:49                   ` Larry McVoy
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     [not found] ` <fa.d7qik9h.1q644ip@ifi.uio.no>
2003-11-17  0:49   ` walt
2003-11-15  1:06 Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2003-11-15  1:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-15 10:53   ` Frank Cusack
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-11-13 12:59 Samium Gromoff
2003-11-13 14:44 ` Jan Harkes
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     [not found] ` <fa.dbkbts9.1k7ohhd@ifi.uio.no>
2003-11-11  4:00   ` walt
2003-11-11  7:22     ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-11  7:37       ` Nick Piggin
2003-11-11  7:47         ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-11 15:04         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-12 21:35           ` Benoit Poulot-Cazajous
2003-11-13 14:53             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-13 15:23               ` Andreas Schwab
2003-11-13 16:09                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-13 16:29                 ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-13 16:39                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-13 22:09                 ` Benoit Poulot-Cazajous
2003-11-11 15:02     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-07  5:10 Larry McVoy
2003-11-07  9:53 ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2003-11-09 15:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-09 15:25   ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-09 15:42     ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-09 16:25       ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-10  1:21         ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-10 13:26       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-10 16:49         ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-10 16:57           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-10 17:54             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-10 17:59               ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-10 18:27                 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-10 18:37                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-10 18:52                     ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-10 19:08                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-10 19:23                       ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-10 19:31                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-10 19:42                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-10 23:41                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-11 15:26                             ` Timothy Miller
2003-11-11  3:10                           ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-11  3:25                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-11  3:48                           ` jw schultz
2003-11-11  4:03                             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-11  7:34                             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-11 15:00                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-14  5:13                         ` Andrew Pimlott
2003-11-14 14:01                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-14 14:53                             ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-14 15:28                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-14 18:20                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-10 18:37                   ` David Roundy
2003-11-10 18:46                   ` Andreas Dilger
2003-11-09 19:28     ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-10  1:59       ` Matt Mackall
2003-11-10  2:38         ` H. Peter Anvin

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