From: Andrew Walrond <andrew@walrond.org>
To: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>
Cc: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>, Ben Collins <bcollins@debian.org>,
Sven Dowideit <svenud@ozemail.com.au>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: kernel.bkbits.net off the air
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:45:05 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200311191045.05474.andrew@walrond.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031119004901.GA5070@work.bitmover.com>
Hi Larry
On Wednesday 19 Nov 2003 12:49 am, Larry McVoy wrote:
>
> Because the translation process is hugely CPU intensive. It takes
> something like 6 hours to do the 2.5 tree on 2.2Ghz Athlon with a gig
> of ram. And it uses every bit of that ram, that's my desktop machine
> and _everything_ is paged out when I come in in the morning.
But once you've done it, incoming changesets are then added incrementally,
right? You don't just convert the tree once a day?
So you'd just need to maintain two copies of the cvs tree, one which currently
available for coherent transmission to lobobk clients, and the other which
can be updated, with a means of swapping them
> I agreed to the BK2CVS stuff as a way of ensuring that people had the
> data in a format that they could use without BK and was useful. I'm
> willing to do that for each main tree of each major project (i.e., if
> XFree86 or something like that moved to BK we'd agree to do the CVS
> conversion so that there was no lockin).
But, as I described in my previous post, it also has at least one useful
commercial application.
> But doing it for every branch of every tree is nuts unless you are
> donating a 16 way with a zillion gigs of ram. And a zillion disk
> arms, this thrashes the heck out of the disk.
The 2.5 tree is <300Mb, so just stick 4Gb in your machine, the bk and cvs tree
in tmpfs and, well, throw the HD away ;)
> > And when you've finished that, I'd like a moon rocket please. GPL, of
> > course ;)
This was in anticipation of somebody calling me a whinging pom. And sure
enough... (And yes, my antipodean mates, we are going to _stuff_ you on
saturday!)
> Yeah, and I'd like all the open source developers of the world to
> acknowledge that I'm a good guy and I'm trying to help. In writing, of
> course ;)
I think everyone who works for a living knows that already :)
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[not found] <fa.eto0cvm.1v20528@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.onl48uv.1tmeb21@ifi.uio.no>
2003-11-11 14:14 ` kernel.bkbits.net off the air walt
2003-11-11 14:38 ` Andrew Walrond
2003-11-11 15:05 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-11 19:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-11 20:21 ` Andrew Walrond
2003-11-11 20:38 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-11 23:52 ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-12 0:19 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-13 10:10 ` Andrew Walrond
2003-11-13 16:27 ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-13 16:43 ` Mark Mielke
2003-11-13 17:14 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-13 17:20 ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-14 3:01 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-13 18:21 ` Tupshin Harper
2003-11-14 7:14 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-11-14 9:48 ` Tupshin Harper
2003-11-14 9:56 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-11-14 21:51 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-11-14 22:55 ` Roman Zippel
2003-11-13 19:17 ` Andrew Walrond
2003-11-13 19:28 ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-13 20:57 ` Andrew Walrond
2003-11-13 21:17 ` Sam Ravnborg
2003-11-14 14:54 ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-14 15:00 ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-14 16:24 ` Andrew Walrond
2003-11-14 16:46 ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-14 17:34 ` Andrew Walrond
2003-11-14 17:43 ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-14 18:17 ` Andrew Walrond
2003-11-16 5:12 ` Sven Dowideit
2003-11-18 15:30 ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-18 18:30 ` Ben Collins
2003-11-18 18:42 ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-18 22:53 ` Sven Dowideit
2003-11-19 0:24 ` Andrew Walrond
2003-11-19 0:38 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-11-19 10:26 ` Andrew Walrond
2003-11-19 0:49 ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-19 10:45 ` Andrew Walrond [this message]
2003-11-18 18:42 ` Timothy Miller
2003-11-14 16:35 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-14 16:48 ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-14 17:03 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-14 17:04 ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-14 17:08 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-14 17:10 ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-16 4:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-13 21:54 ` Eli Carter
2003-11-13 23:32 ` Daniel Egger
2003-11-14 9:56 ` Nick Piggin
2003-11-14 11:38 ` Daniel Egger
2003-11-15 3:02 ` Nick Piggin
2003-11-15 3:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-11-15 3:41 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-15 3:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-11-15 4:04 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-15 21:09 ` Daniel Egger
2003-11-18 9:59 ` Pavel Machek
2003-11-18 15:01 ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-13 0:45 ` Ryan Anderson
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[not found] ` <RQf8.6tb.9@gated-at.bofh.it>
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[not found] ` <Tj5w.4yi.25@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-11-18 19:38 ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-11-19 14:49 ` Larry McVoy
[not found] <fa.gj5f2rq.1u42v9u@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.d7qik9h.1q644ip@ifi.uio.no>
2003-11-17 0:49 ` walt
2003-11-15 1:06 Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2003-11-15 1:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-15 10:53 ` Frank Cusack
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-11-13 12:59 Samium Gromoff
2003-11-13 14:44 ` Jan Harkes
[not found] <fa.na6uip6.p2erhm@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.dbkbts9.1k7ohhd@ifi.uio.no>
2003-11-11 4:00 ` walt
2003-11-11 7:22 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-11 7:37 ` Nick Piggin
2003-11-11 7:47 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-11 15:04 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-12 21:35 ` Benoit Poulot-Cazajous
2003-11-13 14:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-13 15:23 ` Andreas Schwab
2003-11-13 16:09 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-13 16:29 ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-13 16:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-13 22:09 ` Benoit Poulot-Cazajous
2003-11-11 15:02 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-07 5:10 Larry McVoy
2003-11-07 9:53 ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2003-11-09 15:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-09 15:25 ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-09 15:42 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-09 16:25 ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-10 1:21 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-10 13:26 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-10 16:49 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-10 16:57 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-10 17:54 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-10 17:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-10 18:27 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-10 18:37 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-10 18:52 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-10 19:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-10 19:23 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-10 19:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-10 19:42 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-10 23:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-11 15:26 ` Timothy Miller
2003-11-11 3:10 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-11 3:25 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-11 3:48 ` jw schultz
2003-11-11 4:03 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-11 7:34 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-11 15:00 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-14 5:13 ` Andrew Pimlott
2003-11-14 14:01 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-14 14:53 ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-14 15:28 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-14 18:20 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-10 18:37 ` David Roundy
2003-11-10 18:46 ` Andreas Dilger
2003-11-09 19:28 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-10 1:59 ` Matt Mackall
2003-11-10 2:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
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