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From: Jan Harkes <jaharkes@cs.cmu.edu>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Arch Users Mailing List <gnu-arch-users@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: kernel.bkbits.net off the air
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:44:54 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031113144454.GA2502@delft.aura.cs.cmu.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r80c5sqp.wl@drakkar.ibe.miee.ru>

On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 03:59:42PM +0300, Samium Gromoff wrote:
> Okay, folks. Now i propose to go further than that.
> 
> I hope that Larry recognises that at some point the linux kernel community
> _will_ switch to a free software alternative.
> 
> I think we should have a better choice than the lossy bk->cvs.
> 
> I propose we as a whole ask Larry to create a bk->arch gateway _not_ via cvs
> but directly, and therefore using all the extended metadata possible.

I appreciate Arch and am actually using it for some things, and can't
give an educated opinion on BK as I have never used it.

But this is just ridiculous.

First of all, there always serious pain in switching. Whatever free
alternative is provided better be _a lot_ better compared to what is
currently used. And although Arch might be more in-line with the
political goals of many developers, frankly I don't believe Arch is
technologically there yet.

But then asking Larry to implement a gateway seems to be the plan of the
century. Hey why doesn't Larry help out with the Arch or SVN effort
while he's at it? How would you react if ClearCase started demanding
that Arch/SVN/CVS developers should implement a one-directional
gateway to their software to make it easier for people to migrate.

Jan


  reply	other threads:[~2003-11-13 14:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 122+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-11-13 12:59 kernel.bkbits.net off the air Samium Gromoff
2003-11-13 14:44 ` Jan Harkes [this message]
2003-11-13 14:26   ` [Gnu-arch-users] " Samium Gromoff
2003-11-13 14:38     ` Samium Gromoff
     [not found] <QHxm.193.21@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <ROZW.3X0.17@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <RPt5.4TS.9@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <RQ5t.69U.7@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <RQf8.6tb.9@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <Snut.2iY.7@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]           ` <Tg7E.7ST.11@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]             ` <TiVJ.4ko.11@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]               ` <Tj5w.4yi.25@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-11-18 19:38                 ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-11-19 14:49                   ` Larry McVoy
     [not found] <fa.gj5f2rq.1u42v9u@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.d7qik9h.1q644ip@ifi.uio.no>
2003-11-17  0:49   ` walt
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-11-15  1:06 Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2003-11-15  1:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-15 10:53   ` Frank Cusack
     [not found] <fa.eto0cvm.1v20528@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.onl48uv.1tmeb21@ifi.uio.no>
2003-11-11 14:14   ` walt
2003-11-11 14:38     ` Andrew Walrond
2003-11-11 15:05       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-11 19:43       ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-11 20:21         ` Andrew Walrond
2003-11-11 20:38           ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-11 23:52           ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-12  0:19             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-13 10:10             ` Andrew Walrond
2003-11-13 16:27               ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-13 16:43                 ` Mark Mielke
2003-11-13 17:14                 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-13 17:20                   ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-14  3:01                     ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-13 18:21                   ` Tupshin Harper
2003-11-14  7:14                     ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-11-14  9:48                       ` Tupshin Harper
2003-11-14  9:56                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-11-14 21:51                       ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-11-14 22:55                       ` Roman Zippel
2003-11-13 19:17                 ` Andrew Walrond
2003-11-13 19:28                   ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-13 20:57                     ` Andrew Walrond
2003-11-13 21:17                       ` Sam Ravnborg
2003-11-14 14:54                         ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-14 15:00                       ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-14 16:24                         ` Andrew Walrond
2003-11-14 16:46                           ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-14 17:34                             ` Andrew Walrond
2003-11-14 17:43                               ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-14 18:17                                 ` Andrew Walrond
2003-11-16  5:12                                 ` Sven Dowideit
2003-11-18 15:30                                   ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-18 18:30                                     ` Ben Collins
2003-11-18 18:42                                       ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-18 22:53                                         ` Sven Dowideit
2003-11-19  0:24                                         ` Andrew Walrond
2003-11-19  0:38                                           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-11-19 10:26                                             ` Andrew Walrond
2003-11-19  0:49                                           ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-19 10:45                                             ` Andrew Walrond
2003-11-18 18:42                                       ` Timothy Miller
2003-11-14 16:35                         ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-14 16:48                           ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-14 17:03                             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-14 17:04                               ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-14 17:08                                 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-14 17:10                                   ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-16  4:57                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-13 21:54                     ` Eli Carter
2003-11-13 23:32                 ` Daniel Egger
2003-11-14  9:56                   ` Nick Piggin
2003-11-14 11:38                     ` Daniel Egger
2003-11-15  3:02                       ` Nick Piggin
2003-11-15  3:22                         ` Linus Torvalds
2003-11-15  3:41                           ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-15  3:49                             ` Linus Torvalds
2003-11-15  4:04                               ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-15 21:09                         ` Daniel Egger
2003-11-18  9:59                 ` Pavel Machek
2003-11-18 15:01                   ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-13  0:45           ` Ryan Anderson
     [not found] <fa.na6uip6.p2erhm@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.dbkbts9.1k7ohhd@ifi.uio.no>
2003-11-11  4:00   ` walt
2003-11-11  7:22     ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-11  7:37       ` Nick Piggin
2003-11-11  7:47         ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-11 15:04         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-12 21:35           ` Benoit Poulot-Cazajous
2003-11-13 14:53             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-13 15:23               ` Andreas Schwab
2003-11-13 16:09                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-13 16:29                 ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-13 16:39                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-13 22:09                 ` Benoit Poulot-Cazajous
2003-11-11 15:02     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-07  5:10 Larry McVoy
2003-11-07  9:53 ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2003-11-09 15:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-09 15:25   ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-09 15:42     ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-09 16:25       ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-10  1:21         ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-10 13:26       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-10 16:49         ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-10 16:57           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-10 17:54             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-10 17:59               ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-10 18:27                 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-10 18:37                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-10 18:52                     ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-10 19:08                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-10 19:23                       ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-10 19:31                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-10 19:42                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-10 23:41                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-11 15:26                             ` Timothy Miller
2003-11-11  3:10                           ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-11  3:25                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-11  3:48                           ` jw schultz
2003-11-11  4:03                             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-11  7:34                             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-11 15:00                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-14  5:13                         ` Andrew Pimlott
2003-11-14 14:01                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-14 14:53                             ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-14 15:28                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-14 18:20                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-10 18:37                   ` David Roundy
2003-11-10 18:46                   ` Andreas Dilger
2003-11-09 19:28     ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-10  1:59       ` Matt Mackall
2003-11-10  2:38         ` H. Peter Anvin

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