From: "Jörn Engel" <joern@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de>
To: David Wagner <daw-usenet@taverner.cs.berkeley.edu>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: partially encrypted filesystem
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:02:02 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031205130202.GA31855@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bqo1a2$s8i$1@abraham.cs.berkeley.edu>
On Thu, 4 December 2003 19:18:26 +0000, David Wagner wrote:
>
> What? No. Modern cryptosystems are designed to be secure against
> known plaintext attacks. Making your system more convoluted merely to
> avoid providing known plaintext is a lousy design approach: the extra
> complexity usually adds more risk than it removes.
All cryptosystems are designed around the hope that noone figures out
how to break them. Many smart people trying and failing to do so
gives a good general feeling, but nothing more. It remains hope.
How can you claim that modern cryptosystems are immune to known
plaintext attacks?
Jörn
--
When you close your hand, you own nothing. When you open it up, you
own the whole world.
-- Li Mu Bai in Tiger & Dragon
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-12-05 13:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-12-03 21:07 partially encrypted filesystem Kallol Biswas
2003-12-03 21:44 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-12-03 23:20 ` bill davidsen
2003-12-03 21:44 ` Jörn Engel
2003-12-04 0:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-04 1:25 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-12-04 2:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-04 3:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-12-04 2:37 ` Charles Manning
2003-12-04 14:17 ` Jörn Engel
2003-12-04 15:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-04 16:07 ` Phillip Lougher
2003-12-04 17:26 ` Jörn Engel
2003-12-04 18:20 ` Phillip Lougher
2003-12-04 18:40 ` Jörn Engel
2003-12-04 19:41 ` Erez Zadok
2003-12-05 11:20 ` Jörn Engel
2003-12-05 16:16 ` Erez Zadok
2003-12-05 19:14 ` Matthew Wilcox
2003-12-05 19:47 ` Erez Zadok
2003-12-05 20:28 ` Matthew Wilcox
2003-12-05 21:38 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-12-06 0:15 ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2003-12-06 1:35 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-12-06 2:39 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-12-06 11:43 ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2003-12-07 0:04 ` Shaya Potter
2003-12-08 14:08 ` Jörn Engel
2003-12-06 0:50 ` Phillip Lougher
2003-12-08 11:37 ` David Woodhouse
2003-12-08 13:44 ` phillip
2003-12-08 14:07 ` David Woodhouse
2003-12-10 1:16 ` [OT?]Re: " Charles Manning
2003-12-10 17:45 ` Phillip Lougher
2003-12-09 23:40 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-12-10 0:07 ` Pavel Machek
2003-12-10 1:28 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-12-10 2:13 ` Charles Manning
2003-12-05 19:58 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-12-08 11:28 ` David Woodhouse
2003-12-08 13:49 ` phillip
2003-12-04 19:18 ` David Wagner
2003-12-05 13:02 ` Jörn Engel [this message]
2003-12-05 17:28 ` Frank v Waveren
2003-12-05 23:59 ` David Wagner
2003-12-19 15:01 ` Rik van Riel
2003-12-04 3:10 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-12-04 18:16 ` Hans Reiser
2003-12-06 19:56 Pat LaVarre
2003-12-06 22:07 ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2003-12-10 3:22 Valient Gough
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