* Of Mice and Linux
@ 2003-12-08 18:04 Scott Robert Ladd
2003-12-08 19:52 ` Florin Iucha
2003-12-08 20:55 ` Zan Lynx
0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Scott Robert Ladd @ 2003-12-08 18:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Linux Kernel Mailing List
Please indulge a minor story in regard to testing beta kernels.
Last Friday, I made a minor change to my Linux .config and rebuilt
2.6.0-test11. Soon thereafter, my mouse began getting "stuck", sometimes
for several seconds, refusing to move no matter how vigorously I wiggled
my wrist.
I rebuilt the kernel a couple of times, turning on and off various
options; I plugged and unplugged devices from the USB ports; a
considerable amount of cursing ensued. The problem was erratic -- and
frustrating, because I hadn't had much trouble with 2.6 (which I've been
using since the 2.6.4x days).
Then I borrowed a mouse from another machine, plugged it in -- and the
replacement rodent worked flawlessly. It seems that my mouse broke just
about the same time as I installed test11. Being a software guy, I
should have blamed the hardware first...
...especially since the truth was right in front of me, emblazoned
boldly across the mouse: the word "Microsoft".
I think the replacement will be from Logitech.
--
Scott Robert Ladd
Coyote Gulch Productions (http://www.coyotegulch.com)
Software Invention for High-Performance Computing
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* Re: Of Mice and Linux
2003-12-08 18:04 Of Mice and Linux Scott Robert Ladd
@ 2003-12-08 19:52 ` Florin Iucha
2003-12-08 20:56 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2003-12-08 20:55 ` Zan Lynx
1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Florin Iucha @ 2003-12-08 19:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Scott Robert Ladd; +Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List
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On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 01:04:11PM -0500, Scott Robert Ladd wrote:
> Please indulge a minor story in regard to testing beta kernels.
>
> Last Friday, I made a minor change to my Linux .config and rebuilt
> 2.6.0-test11. Soon thereafter, my mouse began getting "stuck", sometimes
> for several seconds, refusing to move no matter how vigorously I wiggled
> my wrist.
>
> I rebuilt the kernel a couple of times, turning on and off various
> options; I plugged and unplugged devices from the USB ports; a
> considerable amount of cursing ensued. The problem was erratic -- and
> frustrating, because I hadn't had much trouble with 2.6 (which I've been
> using since the 2.6.4x days).
>
> Then I borrowed a mouse from another machine, plugged it in -- and the
> replacement rodent worked flawlessly. It seems that my mouse broke just
> about the same time as I installed test11. Being a software guy, I
> should have blamed the hardware first...
>
> ...especially since the truth was right in front of me, emblazoned
> boldly across the mouse: the word "Microsoft".
>
> I think the replacement will be from Logitech.
Hrm... you might be onto something here. My Microsoft mouse gave up
around test-10 or so. Then the USB ports started acting funny on my
SIS 745 motherboard...
florin
--
Don't question authority: they don't know either!
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* Re: Of Mice and Linux
2003-12-08 19:52 ` Florin Iucha
@ 2003-12-08 20:56 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2003-12-08 22:12 ` [OT] " Wakko Warner
2003-12-09 1:43 ` Joshua Kwan
0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Scott Robert Ladd @ 2003-12-08 20:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Florin Iucha; +Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List
Florin Iucha wrote:
> Hrm... you might be onto something here. My Microsoft mouse gave up
> around test-10 or so. Then the USB ports started acting funny on my
> SIS 745 motherboard...
Is it possible for Linux to kill a Microsoft (or any) mouse via the USB
port? I hadn't seriously considered that problem... I don't have the
proper test equipment to check the voltages on the USBs to see if
something is amiss.
And here I was going to write it off as "mouse suicide", the result of a
Microsoft mouse becoming depressed because it was attached to a Linux
system.
(Note: For real humor, I should post a story to Slashdot about how Linux
kills Microsoft mice, with misleading anecdotes and undiscovered
evidence. But, despite my somewhat off-kilter mood today, I will
restrain myself.)
--
Scott Robert Ladd
Coyote Gulch Productions (http://www.coyotegulch.com)
Software Invention for High-Performance Computing
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* [OT] Re: Of Mice and Linux
2003-12-08 20:56 ` Scott Robert Ladd
@ 2003-12-08 22:12 ` Wakko Warner
2003-12-09 1:43 ` Joshua Kwan
1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Wakko Warner @ 2003-12-08 22:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Scott Robert Ladd; +Cc: Florin Iucha, Linux Kernel Mailing List
> Is it possible for Linux to kill a Microsoft (or any) mouse via the USB
> port? I hadn't seriously considered that problem... I don't have the
> proper test equipment to check the voltages on the USBs to see if
> something is amiss.
>
> And here I was going to write it off as "mouse suicide", the result of a
> Microsoft mouse becoming depressed because it was attached to a Linux
> system.
>
> (Note: For real humor, I should post a story to Slashdot about how Linux
> kills Microsoft mice, with misleading anecdotes and undiscovered
> evidence. But, despite my somewhat off-kilter mood today, I will
> restrain myself.)
I got rid of the mouse long ago, I use guinea pig now!
--
Lab tests show that use of micro$oft causes cancer in lab animals
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* Re: Of Mice and Linux
2003-12-08 20:56 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2003-12-08 22:12 ` [OT] " Wakko Warner
@ 2003-12-09 1:43 ` Joshua Kwan
1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Joshua Kwan @ 2003-12-09 1:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Linux Kernel Mailing List
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On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 03:56:46PM -0500, Scott Robert Ladd wrote:
> Is it possible for Linux to kill a Microsoft (or any) mouse via the USB
> port? I hadn't seriously considered that problem... I don't have the
> proper test equipment to check the voltages on the USBs to see if
> something is amiss.
Frankly, I've been using a Microsoft USB IntelliMouse on my laptop since
2.5.59, because they're so damn cheap. Hasn't broken yet and I use it
daily.
--
Joshua Kwan
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* Re: Of Mice and Linux
2003-12-08 18:04 Of Mice and Linux Scott Robert Ladd
2003-12-08 19:52 ` Florin Iucha
@ 2003-12-08 20:55 ` Zan Lynx
2003-12-09 13:35 ` Scott Robert Ladd
1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Zan Lynx @ 2003-12-08 20:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Linux Kernel Mailing List
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On Mon, 2003-12-08 at 11:04, Scott Robert Ladd wrote:
> Please indulge a minor story in regard to testing beta kernels.
>
> Last Friday, I made a minor change to my Linux .config and rebuilt
> 2.6.0-test11. Soon thereafter, my mouse began getting "stuck", sometimes
> for several seconds, refusing to move no matter how vigorously I wiggled
> my wrist.
>
> I rebuilt the kernel a couple of times, turning on and off various
> options; I plugged and unplugged devices from the USB ports; a
> considerable amount of cursing ensued. The problem was erratic -- and
> frustrating, because I hadn't had much trouble with 2.6 (which I've been
> using since the 2.6.4x days).
>
> Then I borrowed a mouse from another machine, plugged it in -- and the
> replacement rodent worked flawlessly. It seems that my mouse broke just
> about the same time as I installed test11. Being a software guy, I
> should have blamed the hardware first...
>
> ...especially since the truth was right in front of me, emblazoned
> boldly across the mouse: the word "Microsoft".
>
> I think the replacement will be from Logitech.
Are you _sure_ your mouse is broken? Did you try your Microsoft mouse
on another machine?
I ask because my Microsoft Intellimouse wireless started doing the same
thing after I installed 2.6.0-test11. I haven't made a bug report
because I haven't had time to bother retrying -test10, removing the
binary Nvidia drivers, and taking out the Reiser4 patches.
But now that you've mentioned the same problem, I'm going to add a "Me
Too!"
And on a different machine, I'm using a Logitech MX700, and it works
perfectly under -test11.
--
Zan Lynx <zlynx@acm.org>
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* Re: Of Mice and Linux
2003-12-08 20:55 ` Zan Lynx
@ 2003-12-09 13:35 ` Scott Robert Ladd
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Scott Robert Ladd @ 2003-12-09 13:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Zan Lynx; +Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List
Zan Lynx wrote:
> Are you _sure_ your mouse is broken? Did you try your Microsoft mouse
> on another machine?
Well, I tried it on another Linux machine, and it was intermittently
buggy. Right now, the Microsoft mouse is plugged into a Windows XP/Pro
system, and seems to be trouble-free.
Meanwhile, I picked up a nice, cheery, red Logitech mouse for my 2.6.0
box, and it is working quite well.
--
Scott Robert Ladd
Coyote Gulch Productions (http://www.coyotegulch.com)
Software Invention for High-Performance Computing
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