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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Eric Whiting <ewhiting@amis.com>,
	akpm@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Pete Zaitcev <zaitcev@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: -mmX 4G patches feedback [numbers: how much performance impact]
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 19:57:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040406175722.GE2234@dualathlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040406172431.GA9185@elte.hu>

On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 07:24:31PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> (anyway, feel free to reproduce and post contrary results here. The onus

I will run benchmarks as soon as I'm back from vacations. You didn't
post the modified benchmarks to produce any realistic load.

I will use the HINT to measure the slowdown on HZ=1000. It's an optimal
benchmark simulating userspace load at various cache sizes and it's
somewhat realistic.

Note also that the slowdown I expect wasn't of the order 10%, obviously,
I was expecting something between 1 and 2% which would be an *huge*
slowdown for any cpu bound app just for the timer irq, and I will try to
reproduce it on my 4-way xeon.

Regardless, even if HZ=1000 would run 1% faster (not 0.02% slower as you
measured) that changes nothing in terms of the 4:4 badness, the real
badness is for apps doing more than userspace pure calculations.

> is on you. And if you think i'm upset about your approach to this whole
> issue then you are damn right.)

the one upset should be the users running 30% slower with stuff like
mysql just because they own a 4/8G box. There's little interest from my
part to spend time on 4:4 stuff when things are so obvious (I want
however to try to benchmark the HZ=1000 with the hint).

  reply	other threads:[~2004-04-06 17:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-05 16:36 -mmX 4G patches feedback Eric Whiting
2004-04-05 17:46 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-05 21:35   ` Eric Whiting
2004-04-05 22:16     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-06 11:55       ` -mmX 4G patches feedback [numbers: how much performance impact] Ingo Molnar
2004-04-06 14:49         ` Eric Whiting
2004-04-06 15:59         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-06 16:13           ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-04-06 16:39             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-06 17:24           ` Ingo Molnar
2004-04-06 17:57             ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2004-04-07 22:54               ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-04-07 22:50                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-06 19:25           ` Ingo Molnar
2004-04-06 20:25             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-07  6:03               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-07  6:46                 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-04-07  7:23                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-07  8:23                     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-04-07 21:35                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-07 17:27                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-07  7:25               ` Ingo Molnar
2004-04-07 21:39                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-07 22:58             ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-04-07 23:01               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-07 23:21                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-04-07 23:18                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-07 23:34                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-04-08  0:18                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-08  6:24                         ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-04-08 21:59                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-08 22:19                             ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-04-08 22:19                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-08 23:14                                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-04-08 23:22                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-08 23:42                                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-04-08 23:49                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-07 21:19       ` -mmX 4G patches feedback Martin J. Bligh
2004-04-07 21:49         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-06 17:59 -mmX 4G patches feedback [numbers: how much performance impact] Manfred Spraul
2004-04-06 18:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli

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