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From: Sergiy Lozovsky <serge_lozovsky@yahoo.com>
To: Martin Waitz <tali@admingilde.org>
Cc: Timothy Miller <miller@techsource.com>,
	Horst von Brand <vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: kernel stack challenge
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 15:33:21 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040408223321.57722.qmail@web40504.mail.yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040408131116.GO27401@admingilde.org>

Hi, :-)

--- Martin Waitz <tali@admingilde.org> wrote:
> hi :)
> 
> On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 04:17:34PM -0700, Sergiy
> Lozovsky wrote:
> > What? Give an example. I want something high
> level, so
> > Forth will not do. Sure, encapsulation is needed,
> to
> > protect kernel from pointer errors and so on.
> 
> who says that the language that's used by your
> policy administrator
> is the same as the language interpreted by the
> kernel?
> 
> let your administrator write his policy in java/lisp
> or whatever,
> but compile this policy into an easy to interpret
> and safe
> bytecode.

That will not give any benefits. LISP has internal
representation of program and data for sure
('bytecode'), but it is lists. How to unload it to
something one can move around? One of the ways -
unload it in a text form. But it exactly what initial
source code is. Parser of LISP is very small (because
syntax is simple), so producing some non standard
bytecode make no sense - source code of LISP is very
close to it's 'bytecode'.

Serge.

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-04-08 22:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-04  6:48 kernel stack challenge Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-05  9:39 ` Helge Hafting
2004-04-05 17:05   ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-05 18:06     ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-05 17:59       ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-05 19:27         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-04-05 21:14           ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-05 20:09         ` John Stoffel
2004-04-05 20:54           ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-05 21:08             ` Chris Wright
2004-04-05 21:40               ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-05 21:53                 ` Chris Wright
2004-04-05 22:22                 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-05 23:49                   ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-06 13:25                     ` Jesse Pollard
     [not found]                     ` <20040406132750$3d4e@grapevine.lcs.mit.edu>
     [not found]                       ` <mit.lcs.mail.linux-kernel/20040406132750$3d4e@grapevine.lcs.mit.edu>
2004-04-06 16:40                         ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2004-04-06 19:10                           ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-06 20:53                             ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2004-04-06 21:24                               ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-07 14:36                           ` Jesse Pollard
2004-04-05 21:28             ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-05 21:21               ` Stephen Smoogen
2004-04-05 22:25                 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-05 21:30               ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-05 21:45                 ` Kevin Fox
2004-04-05 21:59                 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-04-05 22:52                   ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-06  0:46                     ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-04-06  0:55                     ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-04-06  3:02                       ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-06  3:04                         ` Randy.Dunlap
2004-04-05 22:20                 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-05 23:27                   ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-06 20:16                 ` Horst von Brand
2004-04-06 20:58                   ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-06 22:05                     ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-06 22:56                       ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-06 23:17                         ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-08 13:11                           ` Martin Waitz
2004-04-08 22:33                             ` Sergiy Lozovsky [this message]
2004-04-07  2:44                       ` Horst von Brand
2004-04-07 17:54                         ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-08  2:43                           ` Horst von Brand
2004-04-08  4:07                             ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-08  4:29                               ` Horst von Brand
2004-04-08 22:51                                 ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-08 15:44                               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-04-08 22:22                                 ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-09 15:27                                   ` Jesse Pollard
2004-04-05 21:12         ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-06 13:32     ` Helge Hafting
2004-04-06 17:44       ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-07  1:02         ` Horst von Brand
2004-04-07  1:34           ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-07  8:57             ` David Weinehall
2004-04-07 13:38               ` Chris Friesen
2004-04-07 17:12                 ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-07 17:16               ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-07  2:30           ` viro
2004-04-06 18:33       ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-06 18:51         ` Sergiy Lozovsky
     [not found] <1H9LV-5Jb-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-04-04 11:27 ` Andi Kleen
2004-04-04 18:24   ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-04 18:38     ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
     [not found] <200404052043.i35KhDvS020176@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
2004-04-05 21:06 ` Sergiy Lozovsky
     [not found] <200404052026.i35KQh5g004342@eeyore.valparaiso.cl>
2004-04-05 21:21 ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-06 20:01   ` Horst von Brand
     [not found] <200404061606.i36G6YLE003375@eeyore.valparaiso.cl>
2004-04-06 18:04 ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-06 18:28   ` John Stoffel
2004-04-06 18:48     ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-06 18:57   ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-04-06 21:15     ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-06 22:44       ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-06 22:57         ` viro
2004-04-06 23:32           ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-06 23:45             ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-04-07  2:25       ` Horst von Brand
     [not found] <200404061618.i36GIHgW003419@eeyore.valparaiso.cl>
2004-04-06 18:16 ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-06 20:01   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-04-06 21:38     ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-06 22:46       ` Timothy Miller
     [not found] <24DA9B48-8827-11D8-87A5-000A9585C204@able.es>
2004-04-07  0:27 ` Sergiy Lozovsky
     [not found] <58907794@toto.iv>
2004-04-07  4:29 ` Peter Chubb
     [not found] <20040409182517.330.qmail@web40508.mail.yahoo.com>
2004-04-10  4:17 ` Horst von Brand

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