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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: William Weston <weston@sysex.net>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-final-V0.7.50-24
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 20:12:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050703181229.GA32741@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050703140432.GA19074@elte.hu>


* Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:

> > A few things are left working (but not enough to get the system back):
> > 
> > - Mouse pointer (movements are chunky) and window focus.
> > - Mouse scroll wheel can still scroll xterms and switch workspaces.
> > - SysRq-B
> 
> hm, i can reproduce a variant of this, by starting enough 'dd' tasks.  
> (it needed more than two on a 2-way/4-way HT testbox though) Indeed 
> everything seems to be starved, but SysRq still worked so i was able 
> to SysRq-kIll all tasks and thus the system recovered.
> 
> i'm debugging this now.

ok, found a bug that could explain the situation: mutex sleeps+wakeups 
were incorrectly credited as 'interactive sleep' periods, causing the dd 
processes to be boosted incorrectly. The dd processes created a workload 
in which they blocked each other in such a pattern that they got boosted 
periodically, starving pretty much every other task.

the fix is significant and affects alot of workloads, and should further 
improve interactivity in noticeable ways. I'm not 100% sure it solves 
all the starvation problems (e.g. how could normal-prio dd tasks starve 
the SCHED_FIFO irq threads that drove SysRq?), but the results so far 
look promising.

i've uploaded the -50-45 patch, can you under this kernel trigger a 
'meltdown' on your SMT box?

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2005-07-03 18:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-06-28 17:27 Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-final-V0.7.50-24 Karsten Wiese
2005-06-28 20:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-28 20:30   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-28 23:51     ` Karsten Wiese
2005-06-29  6:34       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-29  7:00         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-29  9:15           ` William Weston
2005-06-29 12:56             ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-30  1:50               ` William Weston
2005-06-29 14:48             ` Karsten Wiese
2005-06-29 19:38               ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-29 23:36                 ` Karsten Wiese
2005-06-30 17:52                   ` Karsten Wiese
2005-06-30 19:46                     ` Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-final-V0.7.50-37 William Weston
2005-06-30 19:52                       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-30 20:48                         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-30 22:17                           ` Gene Heskett
2005-06-30 22:15                         ` Gene Heskett
2005-06-30 20:38                       ` Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-final-V0.7.50-38 Michal Schmidt
2005-06-30 20:47                         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-30 20:50                     ` Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-final-V0.7.50-24 Ingo Molnar
2005-06-30 22:27                       ` Karsten Wiese
2005-06-30 22:59                         ` William Weston
2005-07-01  1:00                           ` William Weston
2005-07-01  0:15                         ` Karsten Wiese
2005-07-01  7:18                         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-01 19:34                           ` Chuck Harding
2005-07-02  1:46                           ` William Weston
2005-07-02  2:02                             ` Lee Revell
2005-07-04  8:53                               ` William Weston
2005-07-04 11:16                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-13  1:18                                   ` Lee Revell
2005-07-13  1:28                                     ` Lee Revell
2005-07-13  6:35                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-13 17:20                                         ` Lee Revell
2005-07-03 14:04                             ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-03 18:12                               ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2005-07-05 20:43                                 ` Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-final-V0.7.50-45 William Weston
2005-07-06 10:04                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-06 21:12                                     ` William Weston
2005-07-07 14:56                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-07 15:31                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-07 15:42                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-07 16:10                                           ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-07 16:48                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-08  7:02                                               ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-08  9:54                                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-08 10:00                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-08 20:55                                               ` Bill Davidsen
2005-07-07 17:51                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-07 21:18                                               ` Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-final-V0.7.51-12 Chuck Harding
2005-07-08  5:41                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-08  8:00                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-08 18:06                                                     ` Chuck Harding
2005-07-07 19:05                                     ` Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-final-V0.7.51-08 William Weston
2005-07-07 19:18                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-07 19:46                                         ` William Weston
2005-07-07 19:52                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-08  9:23                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-08  9:29                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-08  9:45                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-08 20:30                                             ` Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-final-V0.7.51-17 William Weston
2005-07-07  1:26                                 ` Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-final-V0.7.50-24 William Weston
2005-07-07 10:48                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-07 18:49                                     ` Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-final-V0.7.51-06 William Weston
2005-07-07 20:02                                     ` Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-final-V0.7.51-12 William Weston
2005-07-08  8:03                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-08 20:12                                         ` William Weston
2005-07-09 21:24                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2005-07-10 11:18                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2005-07-10 15:10                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-10 15:43                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2005-07-10 16:12                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2005-07-10 18:26                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-11 18:49                                                     ` William Weston
2005-07-08 22:33                                         ` Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-final-V0.7.51-17 William Weston
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-07-12 10:23 Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-final-V0.7.50-24 Karsten Wiese
2005-07-12 14:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-12 14:25   ` Daniel Walker
2005-07-12 14:28     ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-12 14:31       ` Daniel Walker
2005-07-12 14:46         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-12 14:56           ` Daniel Walker
2005-07-16  2:11             ` Daniel Walker
2005-07-16 17:11               ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-12 14:47       ` K.R. Foley
2005-07-12 16:01         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-12 16:16           ` K.R. Foley
2005-07-13  0:02           ` William Weston
2005-07-13  0:04     ` Karsten Wiese
2005-07-13  0:08       ` William Weston
2005-07-15 12:05         ` Karsten Wiese
2005-07-16 19:32           ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-08 11:28 [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-rc6-V0.7.48-00 Ingo Molnar
2005-06-25  9:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-25 13:19   ` Gene Heskett
2005-06-25 14:39     ` Gene Heskett
2005-06-27 19:01       ` Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-final-V0.7.50-24 Chuck Harding
2005-06-27 19:42         ` Chuck Harding
2005-06-27 21:08           ` Gene Heskett
2005-06-27 20:09         ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-27 20:28           ` Chuck Harding
2005-06-28  0:50             ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-28  7:53           ` Steven Rostedt
2005-06-28  8:18             ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-28  8:34               ` Steven Rostedt
2005-06-28  9:12               ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-28 15:26                 ` Michal Schmidt
2005-06-28 15:31                   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-28 18:50                     ` Chuck Harding
2005-06-28 22:16                 ` Chuck Harding
2005-06-29  0:32                   ` Chuck Harding
2005-06-28 15:54             ` Daniel Walker

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