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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: William Weston <weston@sysex.net>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-final-V0.7.50-24
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:48:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050707104859.GD22422@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0507061802570.20214@echo.lysdexia.org>


* William Weston <weston@sysex.net> wrote:

> Still looking into this issue on -51-06.  Found something really odd: 
> SCHED_NORMAL tasks will start to inherit the priority value of some 
> other SCHED_FIFO task.  If JACK is started at a given SCHED_FIFO 
> priority, X and all of its children will inherit the same priority 
> value after login.  Other random processes will inherit this, too -- 
> sometimes init...
> 
> SCHED_NORMAL tasks suddenly inheriting priority values in the range 
> normally reserved for SCHED_FIFO could explain at least part of the 
> meltdown I've been seeing.  Any thoughts?

is this inheritance perpetual? It is normal for some tasks to be boosted 
momentarily, but if the condition remains even after jackd has exited, 
it's clearly an anomaly. (lets call it "RT priority leakage".) Priority 
leakage on SMP was fixed recently, but there could be other bugs 
remaining.

There's priority-leakage debugging code in the -RT kernel, which is 
activated if you enable CONFIG_DEBUG_PREEMPT. This debugging code, if 
triggered, should produce 'BUG: comm/123 leaked RT prio 123 (123)?" type 
of messages. But ... due to a bug it would not print out anything but 
would lock up hard if it detects the condition (and if 
RT_DEADLOCK_DETECT is enabled). I have fixed this reporting bug in the 
-51-08 kernel.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2005-07-07 10:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-06-28 17:27 Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-final-V0.7.50-24 Karsten Wiese
2005-06-28 20:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-28 20:30   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-28 23:51     ` Karsten Wiese
2005-06-29  6:34       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-29  7:00         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-29  9:15           ` William Weston
2005-06-29 12:56             ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-30  1:50               ` William Weston
2005-06-29 14:48             ` Karsten Wiese
2005-06-29 19:38               ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-29 23:36                 ` Karsten Wiese
2005-06-30 17:52                   ` Karsten Wiese
2005-06-30 19:46                     ` Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-final-V0.7.50-37 William Weston
2005-06-30 19:52                       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-30 20:48                         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-30 22:17                           ` Gene Heskett
2005-06-30 22:15                         ` Gene Heskett
2005-06-30 20:38                       ` Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-final-V0.7.50-38 Michal Schmidt
2005-06-30 20:47                         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-30 20:50                     ` Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-final-V0.7.50-24 Ingo Molnar
2005-06-30 22:27                       ` Karsten Wiese
2005-06-30 22:59                         ` William Weston
2005-07-01  1:00                           ` William Weston
2005-07-01  0:15                         ` Karsten Wiese
2005-07-01  7:18                         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-01 19:34                           ` Chuck Harding
2005-07-02  1:46                           ` William Weston
2005-07-02  2:02                             ` Lee Revell
2005-07-04  8:53                               ` William Weston
2005-07-04 11:16                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-13  1:18                                   ` Lee Revell
2005-07-13  1:28                                     ` Lee Revell
2005-07-13  6:35                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-13 17:20                                         ` Lee Revell
2005-07-03 14:04                             ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-03 18:12                               ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-05 20:43                                 ` Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-final-V0.7.50-45 William Weston
2005-07-06 10:04                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-06 21:12                                     ` William Weston
2005-07-07 14:56                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-07 15:31                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-07 15:42                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-07 16:10                                           ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-07 16:48                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-08  7:02                                               ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-08  9:54                                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-08 10:00                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-08 20:55                                               ` Bill Davidsen
2005-07-07 17:51                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-07 21:18                                               ` Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-final-V0.7.51-12 Chuck Harding
2005-07-08  5:41                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-08  8:00                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-08 18:06                                                     ` Chuck Harding
2005-07-07 19:05                                     ` Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-final-V0.7.51-08 William Weston
2005-07-07 19:18                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-07 19:46                                         ` William Weston
2005-07-07 19:52                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-08  9:23                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-08  9:29                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-08  9:45                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-08 20:30                                             ` Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-final-V0.7.51-17 William Weston
2005-07-07  1:26                                 ` Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-final-V0.7.50-24 William Weston
2005-07-07 10:48                                   ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2005-07-07 18:49                                     ` Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-final-V0.7.51-06 William Weston
2005-07-07 20:02                                     ` Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-final-V0.7.51-12 William Weston
2005-07-08  8:03                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-08 20:12                                         ` William Weston
2005-07-09 21:24                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2005-07-10 11:18                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2005-07-10 15:10                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-10 15:43                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2005-07-10 16:12                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2005-07-10 18:26                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-11 18:49                                                     ` William Weston
2005-07-08 22:33                                         ` Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-final-V0.7.51-17 William Weston
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-07-12 10:23 Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-final-V0.7.50-24 Karsten Wiese
2005-07-12 14:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-12 14:25   ` Daniel Walker
2005-07-12 14:28     ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-12 14:31       ` Daniel Walker
2005-07-12 14:46         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-12 14:56           ` Daniel Walker
2005-07-16  2:11             ` Daniel Walker
2005-07-16 17:11               ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-12 14:47       ` K.R. Foley
2005-07-12 16:01         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-12 16:16           ` K.R. Foley
2005-07-13  0:02           ` William Weston
2005-07-13  0:04     ` Karsten Wiese
2005-07-13  0:08       ` William Weston
2005-07-15 12:05         ` Karsten Wiese
2005-07-16 19:32           ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-08 11:28 [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-rc6-V0.7.48-00 Ingo Molnar
2005-06-25  9:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-25 13:19   ` Gene Heskett
2005-06-25 14:39     ` Gene Heskett
2005-06-27 19:01       ` Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-final-V0.7.50-24 Chuck Harding
2005-06-27 19:42         ` Chuck Harding
2005-06-27 21:08           ` Gene Heskett
2005-06-27 20:09         ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-27 20:28           ` Chuck Harding
2005-06-28  0:50             ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-28  7:53           ` Steven Rostedt
2005-06-28  8:18             ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-28  8:34               ` Steven Rostedt
2005-06-28  9:12               ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-28 15:26                 ` Michal Schmidt
2005-06-28 15:31                   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-28 18:50                     ` Chuck Harding
2005-06-28 22:16                 ` Chuck Harding
2005-06-29  0:32                   ` Chuck Harding
2005-06-28 15:54             ` Daniel Walker

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