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From: Olivier Galibert <galibert@pobox.com>
To: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Yaroslav Rastrigin <yarick@it-territory.ru>,
	Kasper Sandberg <lkml@metanurb.dk>,
	Alistair John Strachan <s0348365@sms.ed.ac.uk>,
	andersen@codepoet.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Why the DOS has many ntfs read and write driver,but the linux can't for a long time
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 17:34:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060109163437.GA67773@dspnet.fr.eu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1136823313.9957.37.camel@mindpipe>

On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 11:15:12AM -0500, Lee Revell wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-01-09 at 16:07 +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
> > Currently Linux performance loading large binaries is at least
> > perceptually worse than Windows (some of that is perceptual tricks
> > windows apps pull, some of it real). 
> 
> Would you care to elaborate on this statement?  It's not clear to me how
> perception could differ from reality in this case.  If it seems faster
> doesn't that mean it is faster?

You can have a window opened without being ready to accept input yet
for instance.  XEmacs does that[1] when it opens its window before
parsing the user's configuration which can load a number of things and
hence take a while to run.  "Ok I'm going to open your application"
animations allow to win some perceptual time too.

Humans are fundamentally easy to fool for 1-2 seconds as long as they
have feedback.  Longer gets harder :-)

  OG.

[1] For technical reasons, not perceptual.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-01-09 16:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-01-09  7:54 Why the DOS has many ntfs read and write driver,but the linux can't for a long time Boxer Gnome
2006-01-09  8:06 ` Erik Andersen
2006-01-09  8:21   ` Boxer Gnome
2006-01-09  8:53     ` Jim Crilly
2006-01-09  9:07   ` Yaroslav Rastrigin
2006-01-09 10:22     ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-01-09 11:03       ` Yaroslav Rastrigin
2006-01-09 12:45         ` CaT
2006-01-09 13:34           ` Yaroslav Rastrigin
2006-01-10 13:29             ` Helge Hafting
2006-01-10 16:29               ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-01-11  2:29             ` David Nicol
2006-01-11  2:56               ` Lee Revell
2006-01-12 18:53                 ` David Nicol
2006-01-12 21:05                   ` Lee Revell
2006-01-09 13:36         ` Kasper Sandberg
2006-01-09 13:56           ` Yaroslav Rastrigin
2006-01-09 16:07             ` Alan Cox
2006-01-09 16:15               ` Lee Revell
2006-01-09 16:34                 ` Alan Cox
2006-01-09 16:34                 ` Olivier Galibert [this message]
2006-01-09 19:24               ` Diego Calleja
2006-01-09 19:33                 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-09 13:54         ` Lee Revell
2006-01-09 14:51           ` [OT?] " Yaroslav Rastrigin
2006-01-09 15:15             ` Lee Revell
2006-01-09 15:36               ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-01-14  9:55                 ` Pavel Machek
2006-01-09 15:17             ` Pekka Enberg
2006-01-09 14:32         ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-01-09 15:22         ` Denis Vlasenko
2006-01-09 19:07         ` Diego Calleja
2006-01-09 22:49         ` Dave Airlie
2006-01-10 12:00         ` Pavel Machek
2006-01-09 13:56     ` Lee Revell
2006-01-10  7:13     ` Andrew Morton
2006-01-10  7:33       ` Denis Vlasenko
2006-01-10  8:33         ` D. Hazelton
2006-01-10 10:49           ` Diego Calleja
2006-01-10 13:26           ` Denis Vlasenko
2006-01-11  4:57             ` D. Hazelton
2006-01-10  9:32         ` Yaroslav Rastrigin
2006-01-10  9:20       ` Yaroslav Rastrigin
2006-01-10 10:50         ` Diego Calleja
2006-01-09 16:32 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
     [not found] <5t06S-7nB-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <5t34G-3Zu-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <5t5pU-7tD-37@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <5t5JU-7Sn-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
2006-01-09 14:18       ` Robert Hancock
2006-01-09 14:28         ` Oliver Neukum
2006-01-09 15:15           ` Lee Revell
2006-01-09 16:02             ` Oliver Neukum
2006-01-09 16:04               ` Lee Revell
2006-01-09 16:14                 ` Oliver Neukum
2006-01-09 16:19                   ` Lee Revell
2006-01-09 16:29                     ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-01-09 16:41                       ` Lee Revell
2006-01-09 16:53                         ` Oliver Neukum
2006-01-09 16:56                           ` Lee Revell
2006-01-09 17:14                           ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-09 17:28                             ` Lee Revell
2006-01-09 19:35                               ` Anton Altaparmakov
2006-01-09 17:14                           ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-01-09 17:31                           ` Alan Cox
2006-01-09 16:45                             ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-01-09 17:33                             ` Lee Revell
2006-01-09 18:11                               ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-09 17:45                             ` Oliver Neukum
2006-01-09 16:59                         ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-01-10  1:44                         ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-01-10  4:30                           ` Lee Revell
2006-01-10 10:13                             ` Jakob Oestergaard
2006-01-10 10:34                               ` Jesper Juhl
2006-01-10 23:48 Lukas Hejtmanek
2006-01-10 23:57 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-11  0:02   ` Lukas Hejtmanek

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