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From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] uts namespaces: Implement utsname namespaces
Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 15:28:40 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060408202840.GB26403@sergelap.austin.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <p73hd549o5u.fsf@bragg.suse.de>

Quoting Andi Kleen (ak@suse.de):
> "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com> writes:
> 
> > This patch defines the uts namespace and some manipulators.
> > Adds the uts namespace to task_struct, and initializes a
> > system-wide init namespace which will continue to be used when
> > it makes sense.
> 
> So to get this straight - you want to add a new pointer to 
> task_struct for each possible virtualized entity? 
> 
> After you're doing by how many bytes will task_struct be bloated? 
> I don't think that's a very good approach because you'll crank
> up the per thread memory overhead which is already far too big
> in Linux. Also it adds cache foot print and generally makes
> things slower.
> 
> If anything I would request using a proxy data structure
> that contains all the virtualized namespaces for a set
> of processes. And give each task only has a single pointer
> to one of these.

This is something we've been discussing - whether to use a single
"container" structure pointing to all the namespaces, or put everything
into the task_struct.  Using container structs means more cache misses
and refcounting issues, but keeps task_struct smaller as you point out.

The consensus so far has been to start putting things into task_struct
and move if needed.  At least the performance numbers show that so far
there is no impact.

iirc container patches have been sent before.  Should those be resent,
then, and perhaps this patchset rebased on those?

thanks,
-serge

  reply	other threads:[~2006-04-08 20:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-04-07 18:36 [RFC][PATCH 0/5] uts namespaces: Introduction Serge E. Hallyn
2006-04-07 18:36 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/5] uts namespaces: Enable UTS namespaces debugging Serge E. Hallyn
2006-04-07 18:36 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/5] uts namespaces: Switch to using uts namespaces Serge E. Hallyn
2006-04-07 19:17   ` Sam Ravnborg
2006-04-07 19:25     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-04-11 12:26   ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-04-11 21:04     ` Sam Vilain
2006-04-12  5:01       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-04-12  6:00         ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-04-19 15:00           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-04-07 18:36 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/5] uts namespaces: Use init uts_namespace when appropriate Serge E. Hallyn
2006-04-07 18:36 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/5] utsname namespaces: sysctl hack Serge E. Hallyn
2006-04-19 15:17   ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-04-19 15:21     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-04-19 15:50       ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-04-19 16:54         ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-04-19 17:10           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-04-19 17:10         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-04-19 15:52       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-04-19 16:23         ` Dave Hansen
2006-04-19 16:52           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-04-19 17:19             ` Dave Hansen
2006-04-19 17:37               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-04-19 17:48               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-04-19 15:29     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-04-19 17:51       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-04-19 18:27         ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-04-19 20:24           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-04-19 21:44           ` Sam Vilain
2006-04-20 17:05             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-04-25 22:00             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-04-26  4:09               ` Sam Vilain
2006-04-26 10:28                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-04-27 12:32                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-04-07 18:36 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] uts namespaces: Implement utsname namespaces Serge E. Hallyn
2006-04-07 19:13   ` Sam Ravnborg
2006-04-07 19:20     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-04-07 19:39     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-04-07 20:47   ` James Morris
2006-04-07 22:13     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-04-08 13:44   ` Andi Kleen
2006-04-08 13:45   ` Andi Kleen
2006-04-08 20:28     ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
2006-04-09  6:00       ` Andi Kleen
2006-04-09 19:08         ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-04-07 19:06 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/5] uts namespaces: Introduction Eric W. Biederman
2006-04-07 19:28   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-04-07 19:39     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-04-11 12:32 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-04-11 14:01   ` Serge E. Hallyn

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