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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
To: Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@in.ibm.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Gautham shenoy <ego@in.ibm.com>,
	"Pallipadi, Venkatesh" <venkatesh.pallipadi@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] flush_cpu_workqueue: don't flush an empty ->worklist
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 19:55:16 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070115165516.GA254@tv-sign.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070115161810.GB16435@in.ibm.com>

On 01/15, Srivatsa Vaddagiri wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2007 at 03:54:01PM +0300, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > > - singlethread_cpu needs to be hotplug safe (broken currently)
> > 
> > Why? Could you explain?
> 
> What if 'singlethread_cpu' dies?

Still can't understand you. Probably you missed what singlethread_cpu is.

singlethread_cpu is just a "random" bit from cpu_possible_map. Single
threaded workqueue is not bound to any cpu. We only need it to be sure that
percpu_data.ptrs[singlethread_cpu] is populated by __percpu_alloc_mask().

> > > - Any reason why cpu_populated_map is not modified on CPU_DEAD?
> > 
> > Because CPU_DEAD/CPU_UP_CANCELED doesn't wait for cwq->thread to exit.
> > cpu_populated_map never shrinks, it only grows on CPU_UP_PREPARE.
> > 
> > We can change this, but it needs some more code, and I am not sure
> > we need it. Note that a "false" bit in cpu_populated_map only means
> > that flush_work/flush_workqueue/destroy_workqueu will do lock/unlock
> > of cwq->lock, nothing more.
> 
> What abt __create_workqueue/schedule_on_each_cpu?

As I said already __create_workqueue() needs a fix, schedule_on_each_cpu()
is already broken, and should be fixed as well.

> > > - I feel more comfortable if workqueue_cpu_callback were to take
> > >   workqueue_mutex in LOCK_ACQ and release it in LOCK_RELEASE
> > >   notifications.
> > 
> > The whole purpose of this change to avoid this!
> 
> I guess it depends on how __create_workqueue/schedule_on_each_cpu is
> modified (whether we take/release lock upon LOCK_ACQ/LOCK_RELEASE)

Sorry, can't understand this...

> > > Finally, I wonder if these changes will be unnecessary if we move to
> > > process freezer based hotplug locking ...
> > 
> > This change ir not strictly necessary but imho make the code better and
> > shrinks .text by 379 bytes.
> > 
> > But I believe that freezer will change nothing for workqueue. We still
> > need take_over_work(), and hacks like migrate_sequence. And no, CPU_DEAD
> > can't just thaw cwq->thread which was bound to the dead CPU to complete
> > kthread_stop(), we should thaw all processes.
> 
> What abt stopping that thread in CPU_DOWN_PREPARE (before freezing
> processes)? I understand that it may add to the latency, but compared to
> the overall latency of process freezer, I suspect it may not be much.

Srivatsa, why do you think this would be better?

It add to the complexity! What do you mean by "stopping that thread" ?
Kill it? - this is wrong. Make it TASK_STOPPED? - very untrivial and I
can't see how this helps.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2007-01-15 16:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-12-17 22:34 [PATCH, RFC] reimplement flush_workqueue() Oleg Nesterov
2006-12-18  3:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-19  0:27 ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-19  0:43   ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-12-19  1:00     ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-04 11:32     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-04 14:29       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-04 15:56         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-04 16:31           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-04 16:57             ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-04 17:18         ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-04 18:09           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-04 18:31             ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-05  9:03               ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-05 14:07                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-06 15:24                   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-05  8:56           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-05 12:42             ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-06 15:11               ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-06 15:10           ` [PATCH] fix-flush_workqueue-vs-cpu_dead-race-update Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-06 15:45             ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-06 16:30               ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-06 16:38                 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-06 17:34                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-07 10:43                     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-07 12:56                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-07 14:22                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-07 14:42                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-07 16:43                           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-07 17:01                             ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-07 17:33                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-07 17:18                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-07 16:21                         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-07 17:09                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-06 19:11                   ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-06 19:13                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-07 11:00                     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-07 19:59                       ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-07 21:01                         ` [PATCH] flush_cpu_workqueue: don't flush an empty ->worklist Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-08 23:54                           ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-09  5:04                             ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-09  5:26                               ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-09  6:56                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-09  9:33                                 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-09  9:44                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-09  9:51                                   ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-09 10:09                                     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-09 10:15                                       ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-09 15:07                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-09 15:59                                   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-09 16:38                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-09 16:46                                       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-09 16:56                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-14 23:54                                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-15  4:33                                             ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-15 12:54                                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-15 13:08                                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-15 16:18                                                 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-15 16:55                                                   ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2007-01-16  5:26                                                     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-16 13:27                                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-17  6:17                                                         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-17 15:47                                                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-17 16:12                                                             ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-17 17:01                                                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-17 16:25                                                             ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-07 21:51                         ` [PATCH] fix-flush_workqueue-vs-cpu_dead-race-update Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-08 15:22                           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-08 15:56                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-08 16:31                               ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-08 17:06                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-08 18:37                                   ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2007-01-09  1:11                                     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-09  4:39                                   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-09 14:38                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-08 15:37                         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-04 12:02 ` [PATCH, RFC] reimplement flush_workqueue() Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-04 14:38   ` Oleg Nesterov

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