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From: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	Maneesh Soni <maneesh@in.ibm.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>, Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.6.21-rc suspend regression: sysfs deadlock
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 19:16:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200703071916.57907.oliver@neukum.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0703071001020.5963@woody.linux-foundation.org>

Am Mittwoch, 7. März 2007 19:02 schrieb Linus Torvalds:
> 
> On Wed, 7 Mar 2007, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> >
> > The problem also exists with unplugging devices. Drivers get no feedback
> > to tell them when it is safe to free the data structures associated with
> > an attribute.
> 
> So you just pointed to *another* data structure that apparently violates 
> the "you MUST use refcounting" rule.
> 
> What is it with you people? It's really simple. Data structures must be 
> refcounted if you can reach them two different ways.
> 
> If you don't use refcounting, then you'd better make sure that the data 
> can be reached only one way (for example, by *not* exposing it for sysfs).
> 
> It really *is* that simple. Read the CodingStyle rules.

Very well, there seems to be no clean way to avoid that work.

	Regards
		Oliver

  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-07 18:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-06 19:20 2.6.21-rc suspend regression: sysfs deadlock Hugh Dickins
2007-03-06 20:16 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-07  1:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-07 14:38   ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-07 15:56   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-03-07 16:52     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-07 16:59       ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-07 18:02         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-07 18:16           ` Oliver Neukum [this message]
2007-03-10 20:44 Alan Stern
2007-03-12 21:31 refcounting drivers' data structures used in sysfs buffers Richard Purdie
2007-03-13 15:00 ` 2.6.21-rc suspend regression: sysfs deadlock Alan Stern
2007-03-13 18:42   ` Cornelia Huck
2007-03-13 21:20     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-14 16:12       ` Alan Stern
2007-03-14 18:43         ` Cornelia Huck
2007-03-14 19:23           ` Alan Stern
2007-03-15 10:27             ` Cornelia Huck
2007-03-15 12:31               ` Hugh Dickins
2007-03-15 13:02                 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-15 13:22                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-03-15 13:59                     ` Hugh Dickins
2007-03-15 14:27               ` Alan Stern
2007-03-15 15:32                 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-03-15 16:29                 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-03-15 16:51                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-13 19:00   ` Hugh Dickins
2007-03-13 20:09     ` Alan Stern
2007-03-13 20:55       ` Hugh Dickins
2007-03-13 21:08         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-03-13 21:20         ` Alan Stern

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