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From: Dhaval Giani <dhaval@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: Paul Menage <menage@google.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	linux kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Libcg Devel Mailing List <libcg-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <pzijlstr@redhat.com>,
	Kazunaga Ikeno <k-ikeno@ak.jp.nec.com>,
	Morton Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Graf <tgraf@redhat.com>, Rik Van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] How to handle the rules engine for cgroups
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:12:37 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080710154237.GD18228@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080710143018.GC3782@redhat.com>

> 
> So it boils down to.
> 
> 1) Can we bear the delay in task classification (Especially, exec). If yes,
>   then all the classification job can take place in userspace.

The answer is not really.

> 
> 2) If no,
> 	a) Then either we need to implement rule based engine to let
> 	  kernel do classfication.
> 
> 	b) or we need to do various things in user space as you suggested.
> 		- Pur wrapper around applications.
> 		- Job launcher (ex. Grid daemon) is modified to determine
> 		  the right cgroup and place application there before
> 		  actually launching the job.
> 


I like this approach. The whole classification should really be done by
userspace. Let the wrapper move into the correct group and then start the
task. The kernel really is not the right place for the classification.

And you can have a default group for tasks who really don't care about
where they are placed.

-- 
regards,
Dhaval

  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-10 15:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-01 19:11 [RFC] How to handle the rules engine for cgroups Vivek Goyal
2008-07-02  9:33 ` Kazunaga Ikeno
2008-07-03  1:19 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-03 15:54   ` Vivek Goyal
2008-07-04  0:34     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-04  3:17     ` Li Zefan
2008-07-08  9:35     ` Balbir Singh
2008-07-08 13:45       ` Vivek Goyal
2008-07-10  9:23     ` Paul Menage
2008-07-10 14:30       ` Vivek Goyal
2008-07-10 15:42         ` Dhaval Giani [this message]
2008-07-10 16:51         ` Paul Menage
2008-07-10 14:48       ` Rik van Riel
2008-07-10 15:40         ` Vivek Goyal
2008-07-10 15:56           ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-07-10 17:25             ` Rik van Riel
2008-07-10 17:39               ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-07-10 18:41                 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-07-10 22:29                   ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-07-11  0:55           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-14 13:57             ` Vivek Goyal
2008-07-14 14:44               ` David Collier-Brown
2008-07-14 15:21                 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-07-17  7:05                   ` Kazunaga Ikeno
2008-07-17 13:47                     ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                       ` <20080717170717.GA3718@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
2008-07-18  8:12                         ` [Libcg-devel] " Dhaval Giani
2008-07-18 20:12                           ` Vivek Goyal
2008-08-17 10:33                   ` [RFC] [PATCH -mm] cgroup: uid-based rules to add processes efficiently in the right cgroup Andrea Righi
2008-08-18 12:35                     ` Vivek Goyal
2008-08-19 14:35                       ` righi.andrea
2008-08-18 21:05                     ` Paul Menage
2008-08-19 12:57                       ` Vivek Goyal
2008-08-26  0:54                         ` Paul Menage
2008-08-26 13:41                           ` Vivek Goyal
2008-08-26 14:35                             ` Balbir Singh
2008-08-26 15:04                               ` David Collier-Brown
2008-08-26 16:00                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-08-26 16:32                                   ` David Collier-Brown
2008-08-26 16:08                               ` Vivek Goyal
2008-09-04 18:25                             ` Paul Menage
2008-08-19 15:12                       ` righi.andrea
2008-08-26  0:55                         ` Paul Menage
2008-07-14 15:07             ` Re: [RFC] How to handle the rules engine for cgroups kamezawa.hiroyu
2008-07-10  9:07 ` Paul Menage
2008-07-10 14:06   ` Vivek Goyal
2008-07-10 16:41     ` Paul Menage
2008-07-10 17:19       ` Vivek Goyal
2008-07-10 17:27         ` [Libcg-devel] " Dhaval Giani
2008-07-10 14:33   ` Vivek Goyal
2008-07-10 16:46     ` Paul Menage
2008-07-10 17:18       ` [Libcg-devel] " Dhaval Giani
2008-07-10 17:30         ` Paul Menage
2008-07-10 17:44           ` Dhaval Giani
2008-07-10 15:49   ` Dhaval Giani
2008-07-18  9:52 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-18 15:46   ` Paul Menage
2008-07-18 16:39   ` Balbir Singh
2008-07-18 18:55     ` Vivek Goyal
2008-07-18 23:05   ` kamezawa.hiroyu
2008-07-18 23:10   ` kamezawa.hiroyu

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