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From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
To: Paul Menage <menage@google.com>
Cc: righi.andrea@gmail.com,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dhaval Giani <dhaval@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Kazunaga Ikeno <k-ikeno@ak.jp.nec.com>,
	Morton Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Graf <tgraf@redhat.com>,
	Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCH -mm] cgroup: uid-based rules to add processes efficiently in the right cgroup
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:57:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080819125710.GA18972@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6599ad830808181405i3ec1f9fdp4d8ca7ab675b2c5f@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 02:05:36PM -0700, Paul Menage wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 3:33 AM, Andrea Righi <righi.andrea@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > [ I wrote this patch for a "special purpose" environment, where a lot of
> > short-lived processes belonging to different users are spawned by
> > different daemons,
> 
> What kinds of daemons are these? Is it not possible to add some
> libcgroup calls to these daemons?
> 
> I'm reluctant to add features like this to the kernel side of cgroups
> due to their "magical" nature - any task that does a setuid() now
> risks being swept off into a different cgroup.
> 
> Having the cgroup attachment done explicitly e.g. by a PAM library at
> login time is much less likely to cause unexpected behaviour.
> 
> Maybe if we had a way to control which tasks the magical setuid
> switching occurs for, it might be more acceptable. (Perhaps base it on
> the cgroup of the task that's doing the setuid as well?

Hi Paul,

Same thing will happen if we implement the daemon in user space. A task
who does seteuid(), can be swept away to a different cgroup based on 
rules specified in /etc/cgrules.conf. 

What do you mean by risk? This is the policy set up by system admin and
behaviour would seem consistent as per the policy. If an admin decides
that tasks of user "apache" should run into /container/cpu/apache cgroup and
if a "root" tasks does seteuid(apache), then it manes sense to move task
to /container/cpu/apache.

Exactly what kind of scenario do you have in mind when you want the policy
to be enforced selectively based on task (tid)?

Thanks
Vivek

  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-19 13:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-01 19:11 [RFC] How to handle the rules engine for cgroups Vivek Goyal
2008-07-02  9:33 ` Kazunaga Ikeno
2008-07-03  1:19 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-03 15:54   ` Vivek Goyal
2008-07-04  0:34     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-04  3:17     ` Li Zefan
2008-07-08  9:35     ` Balbir Singh
2008-07-08 13:45       ` Vivek Goyal
2008-07-10  9:23     ` Paul Menage
2008-07-10 14:30       ` Vivek Goyal
2008-07-10 15:42         ` Dhaval Giani
2008-07-10 16:51         ` Paul Menage
2008-07-10 14:48       ` Rik van Riel
2008-07-10 15:40         ` Vivek Goyal
2008-07-10 15:56           ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-07-10 17:25             ` Rik van Riel
2008-07-10 17:39               ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-07-10 18:41                 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-07-10 22:29                   ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-07-11  0:55           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-14 13:57             ` Vivek Goyal
2008-07-14 14:44               ` David Collier-Brown
2008-07-14 15:21                 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-07-17  7:05                   ` Kazunaga Ikeno
2008-07-17 13:47                     ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                       ` <20080717170717.GA3718@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
2008-07-18  8:12                         ` [Libcg-devel] " Dhaval Giani
2008-07-18 20:12                           ` Vivek Goyal
2008-08-17 10:33                   ` [RFC] [PATCH -mm] cgroup: uid-based rules to add processes efficiently in the right cgroup Andrea Righi
2008-08-18 12:35                     ` Vivek Goyal
2008-08-19 14:35                       ` righi.andrea
2008-08-18 21:05                     ` Paul Menage
2008-08-19 12:57                       ` Vivek Goyal [this message]
2008-08-26  0:54                         ` Paul Menage
2008-08-26 13:41                           ` Vivek Goyal
2008-08-26 14:35                             ` Balbir Singh
2008-08-26 15:04                               ` David Collier-Brown
2008-08-26 16:00                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-08-26 16:32                                   ` David Collier-Brown
2008-08-26 16:08                               ` Vivek Goyal
2008-09-04 18:25                             ` Paul Menage
2008-08-19 15:12                       ` righi.andrea
2008-08-26  0:55                         ` Paul Menage
2008-07-14 15:07             ` Re: [RFC] How to handle the rules engine for cgroups kamezawa.hiroyu
2008-07-10  9:07 ` Paul Menage
2008-07-10 14:06   ` Vivek Goyal
2008-07-10 16:41     ` Paul Menage
2008-07-10 17:19       ` Vivek Goyal
2008-07-10 17:27         ` [Libcg-devel] " Dhaval Giani
2008-07-10 14:33   ` Vivek Goyal
2008-07-10 16:46     ` Paul Menage
2008-07-10 17:18       ` [Libcg-devel] " Dhaval Giani
2008-07-10 17:30         ` Paul Menage
2008-07-10 17:44           ` Dhaval Giani
2008-07-10 15:49   ` Dhaval Giani
2008-07-18  9:52 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-18 15:46   ` Paul Menage
2008-07-18 16:39   ` Balbir Singh
2008-07-18 18:55     ` Vivek Goyal
2008-07-18 23:05   ` kamezawa.hiroyu
2008-07-18 23:10   ` kamezawa.hiroyu

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