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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Keika Kobayashi <kobayashi.kk@ncos.nec.co.jp>
Subject: Re: 2.6.29 -mm merge plans
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 14:05:51 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200901071405.51642.nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090106181647.e22b27d2.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Wednesday 07 January 2009 13:16:47 Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 13:06:44 +1100 Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au> 
wrote:
> > On Wednesday 07 January 2009 10:13:44 Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > (cc added)
> > >
> > > On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 17:57:44 -0500
> > >
> > > Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 12:43:00AM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > > > softirq-introduce-statistics-for-softirq.patch
> > > > > proc-export-statistics-for-softirq-to-proc.patch
> > > > > proc-update-document-for-proc-softirqs-and-proc-stat.patch
> > > >
> > > > Why is this in procfs?
> > >
> > > softirq stuff in /proc seems appropriate?  It's alongside
> > > /proc/interrupts.  We could put it in /trendy-fs-of-the-day, but what
> > > would it gain us?
> >
> > Haven't we kind of agreed to use sysfs for things like this? A few years
> > too late to be raising objections now ;)
> >
> > One problem I have with sysfs is that it (the directory structure, rather
> > than the sysfs code itself) really needs to be policed and maintained
> > by a central and coherent place/person with taste. Otherwise people put
> > their own random crap with their own random naming schemes and becomes
> > a crazy mess.
> >
> > softirqs are not hardware but purely kernel subsystem construct, as such
> > they probably go under /sys/kernel/. People unfortunately have already
> > added random crap to the /sys/kernel/ root directory, but future
> > additions really should go into a good subdirectory structure (putting it
> > into the root directory is equivalent to ditching all subdirectories from
> > /proc/sys/).
>
> All sounds like pointless wank^Wbikeshed painting to me.

Really? Our userspace ABI? You think it works bestter when there is as
little thought as possible put into it and everybody just does what
they feel is best?


> > /sys/kernel/softirq/*, I suggest.
>
> What would that *improve*?

It would be logically in the right place.


  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-07  3:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-05  8:43 2.6.29 -mm merge plans Andrew Morton
2009-01-05  9:00 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-01-05  9:07   ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-05 22:31     ` Ying Han
2009-01-05 22:34     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-01-08  4:18       ` Ying Han
2009-01-08  4:41         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-01-08  7:57           ` Ying Han
2009-01-08  8:31             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-01-11  4:18         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-01-12  4:18           ` Ying Han
2009-01-06  5:27   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-01-06  5:41     ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-05  9:02 ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-01-05  9:12   ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-05  9:17     ` David Miller
2009-01-05  9:21       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-05  9:39         ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-01-05 10:10           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-05 10:36             ` David Miller
2009-01-05 12:32               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-05 10:11     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-05 10:37       ` David Miller
2009-01-05  9:40 ` Ryusuke Konishi
2009-01-06 13:30   ` Pekka Enberg
2009-01-07  3:26     ` Ryusuke Konishi
2009-01-07  7:58       ` Pekka Enberg
2009-01-07 14:17       ` Chris Mason
2009-01-05 11:34 ` Al Viro
2009-01-05 11:40 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-10-06  6:14   ` Greg Ungerer
2009-01-05 12:17   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-05 17:38   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-01-05 12:28 ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-12 22:06   ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-15  6:37     ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-06  9:46 ` Pavel Machek
2009-01-06 22:33 ` Folkert van Heusden
2009-01-06 22:38   ` Alan Cox
2009-01-06 22:57 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-01-06 23:08   ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-07  1:05     ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-06 23:08   ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-06 23:22     ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-01-07  2:16       ` Dave Chinner
2009-01-08 15:50         ` Dmitri Monakhov
2009-01-06 23:11   ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-06 23:24     ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-01-07  1:14       ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-07  1:38         ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-07  1:49           ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-07  2:57             ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-07  3:28               ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-08 13:24               ` Pavel Machek
2009-01-10 15:07                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-10 21:32                   ` sync, reboot, and corrupting data [was Re: 2.6.29 -mm merge plans] Pavel Machek
2009-01-10 22:12                     ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-10 22:26                       ` Pavel Machek
2009-01-08 13:22       ` 2.6.29 -mm merge plans Pavel Machek
2009-01-06 23:13   ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-06 23:24     ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-01-06 23:38       ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-07  2:06     ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-07  2:16       ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-07  3:05         ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2009-01-07  4:16           ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-06 23:15   ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-06 23:25     ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-01-07  7:54       ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-01-07  7:59         ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-07  8:10           ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-01-06 23:17   ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-06 23:19     ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-01-06 23:26       ` Warren Turkal
2009-01-06 23:26         ` Warren Turkal
2009-01-12  3:19         ` Roman Zippel
2009-01-06 23:27       ` Diego E. 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2009-01-06 23:31         ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-01-06 23:49           ` Harvey Harrison
2009-01-07  0:09           ` Diego E. 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2009-01-07  0:16             ` Harvey Harrison
2009-01-12  4:21         ` Roman Zippel
2009-01-06 23:19   ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-08 19:11     ` Rodolfo Giometti
2009-01-12 20:23       ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-01-13  9:49         ` Rodolfo Giometti
2009-01-12 20:22     ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-01-13  9:47       ` Rodolfo Giometti
2009-01-06 23:21   ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-06 23:28   ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-07  2:21     ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-08  8:39       ` Miklos Szeredi
2009-01-15  6:45         ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-07  0:01 ` Dan Williams

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