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From: Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Nathan Lynch <nathanl@austin.ibm.com>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	mpm@selenic.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, hpa@zytor.com,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	xemul@openvz.org
Subject: Banning checkpoint (was: Re: What can OpenVZ do?)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 22:06:37 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090219190637.GA4846@x200.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090218231545.GA17524@elte.hu>

I think that all these efforts to abort checkpoint "intelligently" by
banning it early are completely misguided.

"Checkpointable" property isn't one-way ticket like "tainted" flag,
so doing it like tainted var isn't right, atomic or not, SMP-safe or
not.

With filesystems, one has ->f_op field to compare against banned
filesystems, one more flag isn't necessary.

Inotify isn't supported yet? You do

	if (!list_empty(&inode->inotify_watches))
		return -E;

without hooking into inotify syscalls.

ptrace(2) isn't supported -- look at struct task_struct::ptraced and
friends.

And so on.

System call (or whatever) does something with some piece of kernel
internals. We look at this "something" when walking data structures and
abort if it's scary enough.

Please, show at least one counter-example.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-19 19:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 121+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-27 17:07 [RFC v13][PATCH 00/14] Kernel based checkpoint/restart Oren Laadan
2009-01-27 17:07 ` [RFC v13][PATCH 01/14] Create syscalls: sys_checkpoint, sys_restart Oren Laadan
2009-01-27 17:20   ` Randy Dunlap
2009-01-27 17:08 ` [RFC v13][PATCH 02/14] Checkpoint/restart: initial documentation Oren Laadan
2009-01-27 17:08 ` [RFC v13][PATCH 03/14] Make file_pos_read/write() public Oren Laadan
2009-01-27 17:08 ` [RFC v13][PATCH 04/14] General infrastructure for checkpoint restart Oren Laadan
2009-01-27 17:08 ` [RFC v13][PATCH 05/14] x86 support for checkpoint/restart Oren Laadan
2009-02-24  7:47   ` Nathan Lynch
2009-02-24 16:06     ` Dave Hansen
2009-03-18  7:21     ` Oren Laadan
2009-01-27 17:08 ` [RFC v13][PATCH 06/14] Dump memory address space Oren Laadan
2009-01-27 17:08 ` [RFC v13][PATCH 07/14] Restore " Oren Laadan
2009-01-27 17:08 ` [RFC v13][PATCH 08/14] Infrastructure for shared objects Oren Laadan
2009-01-27 17:08 ` [RFC v13][PATCH 09/14] Dump open file descriptors Oren Laadan
2009-01-27 17:08 ` [RFC v13][PATCH 10/14] Restore open file descriprtors Oren Laadan
2009-01-27 17:08 ` [RFC v13][PATCH 11/14] External checkpoint of a task other than ourself Oren Laadan
2009-01-27 17:08 ` [RFC v13][PATCH 12/14] Track in-kernel when we expect checkpoint/restart to work Oren Laadan
2009-01-27 17:08 ` [RFC v13][PATCH 13/14] Checkpoint multiple processes Oren Laadan
2009-01-27 17:08 ` [RFC v13][PATCH 14/14] Restart " Oren Laadan
2009-02-10 17:05 ` [RFC v13][PATCH 00/14] Kernel based checkpoint/restart Dave Hansen
2009-02-11 22:14   ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-12  9:17     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-12 18:11       ` Dave Hansen
2009-02-12 20:48         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-02-13 10:20         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-12 18:11     ` Dave Hansen
2009-02-12 19:30       ` Matt Mackall
2009-02-12 19:42         ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-12 21:51           ` What can OpenVZ do? Dave Hansen
2009-02-12 22:10             ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-12 23:04               ` How much of a mess does OpenVZ make? ;) Was: " Dave Hansen
2009-02-26 15:57                 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-03-10 21:53                   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-03-10 23:28                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-11  8:26                     ` Cedric Le Goater
2009-03-12 14:53                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-12 21:01                         ` Greg Kurz
2009-03-12 21:21                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-13  4:29                             ` Ying Han
2009-03-13  5:34                               ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-03-13  6:19                                 ` Ying Han
2009-03-13 17:27                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-13 19:02                                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-13 19:35                                   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-03-13 21:01                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-13 21:51                                       ` Dave Hansen
2009-03-13 22:15                                         ` Oren Laadan
2009-03-14  0:27                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-03-14  8:12                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-16 22:33                                               ` Kevin Fox
2009-03-19 21:19                                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-03-14  0:20                                       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-03-14  8:25                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-16  6:01                                           ` Oren Laadan
2009-03-13 20:48                                   ` Mike Waychison
2009-03-13 22:35                                     ` Oren Laadan
2009-03-18 18:54                                       ` Mike Waychison
2009-03-18 19:04                                         ` Oren Laadan
2009-03-13 15:27                               ` Cedric Le Goater
2009-03-13 17:11                                 ` Greg Kurz
2009-03-13 17:37                               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-13 15:47                         ` Cedric Le Goater
2009-03-13 16:35                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-13 16:53                             ` Cedric Le Goater
2009-02-26 16:27                 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-02-26 17:33                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-26 18:30                     ` Greg Kurz
2009-02-26 22:17                       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-02-27  9:19                         ` Greg Kurz
2009-02-27 10:53                           ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-02-27 14:33                             ` Cedric Le Goater
2009-02-27  9:36                         ` Cedric Le Goater
2009-02-26 22:31                     ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-02-27  9:03                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-27  9:19                         ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-27 10:57                           ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-02-27  9:22                         ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-27 10:59                           ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-02-27 16:14                       ` Dave Hansen
2009-02-27 21:57                         ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-02-27 21:54                           ` Dave Hansen
2009-03-01  1:33                       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-03-01 20:02                         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-01 20:56                           ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-03-01 22:21                             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-03 16:17                             ` Cedric Le Goater
2009-03-03 18:28                               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-02-13 10:53               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-16 20:51                 ` Dave Hansen
2009-02-17 22:23                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-17 22:30                     ` Dave Hansen
2009-02-18  0:32                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18  0:40                         ` Dave Hansen
2009-02-18  5:11                           ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-02-18 18:16                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 21:27                               ` Dave Hansen
2009-02-18 23:15                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 19:06                                   ` Alexey Dobriyan [this message]
2009-02-19 19:11                                     ` Banning checkpoint (was: Re: What can OpenVZ do?) Dave Hansen
2009-02-24  4:47                                       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-02-24  5:11                                         ` Dave Hansen
2009-02-24 15:43                                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-02-24 20:09                                           ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-02-12 22:17             ` What can OpenVZ do? Alexey Dobriyan
2009-02-13 10:27             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-13 11:32               ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-02-13 11:45                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-13 22:28                   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-03-14  0:04                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-03-14  0:26                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-02-12 22:57         ` [RFC v13][PATCH 00/14] Kernel based checkpoint/restart Dave Hansen
2009-02-12 23:05           ` Matt Mackall
2009-02-12 23:13             ` Dave Hansen
2009-02-13 23:28       ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-14 23:08         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-14 23:31           ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-14 23:50             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-16 17:37         ` Dave Hansen
2009-03-13  2:45         ` Oren Laadan
2009-03-13  3:57           ` Oren Laadan
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2009-02-24 13:00                     ` Banning checkpoint (was: Re: What can OpenVZ do?) Bodo Eggert

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