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From: Stefan Seyfried <stefan.seyfried@googlemail.com>
To: Anders Eriksson <aeriksson@fastmail.fm>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	"Bartłomiej Zimoń" <uzi18@o2.pl>,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, danborkmann@googlemail.com,
	awalls@radix.net
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [suspend/resume] Re: userspace notification from module
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 22:26:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100105222657.27218c4c@strolchi.home.s3e.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100105090706.751D233C4B0@tippex.mynet.homeunix.org>

On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 10:07:06 +0100
Anders Eriksson <aeriksson@fastmail.fm> wrote:

> 
> rjw@sisk.pl said:
> >> > I don't see a problem with this in principle, although I don't think signals
> >> > are very suitable for this particular purpose, because you need two-way
> >> > communication between the power manager and the processes it's going to
> >> > notify (because it has to wait for the processes to finish their preparations
> >> > and to tell it that they are ready). 
> 
> Wouldn't there need to be dependecy tracking for the userspace processes? A 
> process couldn't signal "done" until it know there's no more work to do, which 
> requires all other processes to finish up first.

No. 99% of the processes don't care about suspend. They don't need
notifications or anything.
The few that do care, register themselves with the power manager. They
get notified before suspend and the power manager might wait until they
tell him that they are ready.
A special case are processes that only want to inhibit suspend - the CD
burning application case - they just tell the power manager "I am
important and you must not suspend now". They do this even if there is
no suspend notification, and once they are done with the critical part
of their work, they remove their "inhibit flag".

This all works pretty well already, and is really not very complicated.
-- 
Stefan Seyfried

"Any ideas, John?"
"Well, surrounding them's out."

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-01-05 21:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-02 13:29 userspace notification from module Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-02 14:04 ` Daniel Borkmann
2010-01-02 14:27   ` [suspend/resume] " Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-02 15:11     ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]     ` <6f52f5b81001020713j5435cfadr1143806a9026adc2@mail.gmail.com>
2010-01-02 15:15       ` Daniel Borkmann
2010-01-02 15:40         ` Andy Walls
2010-01-02 15:56           ` Daniel Borkmann
2010-01-02 18:26             ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-02 21:01               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                 ` <7cf4f51f.5fc2a5cd.4b3fc3ad.c849c@o2.pl>
2010-01-02 23:29                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-03 17:20                     ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-03 21:50                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                     ` <65e5aef6.33251eb4.4b3fecf4.a2f99@o2.pl>
2010-01-03  9:30                       ` Daniel Borkmann
2010-01-03 10:06                         ` Daniel Borkmann
     [not found]                           ` <43bd3f9d.71702a8b.4b407900.b542@o2.pl>
2010-01-03 21:49                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-04 13:38                               ` Stefan Seyfried
2010-01-03 21:33                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-03 21:29                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                         ` <24fb84fa.38887c91.4b411ffd.e7f1f@o2.pl>
2010-01-03 23:30                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-03 23:35                             ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-03 23:45                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-04  0:51                                 ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-04  1:06                                   ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-04 19:43                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-05  9:07                                     ` [linux-pm] " Anders Eriksson
     [not found]                                       ` <7e89c5d.77f82021.4b43a8d7.127e1@o2.pl>
2010-01-05 21:23                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-05 22:12                                           ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-05 23:03                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                                               ` <1ab86ec9.7bc73105.4b43cd45.c2747@o2.pl>
2010-01-06 14:35                                                 ` Anders Eriksson
2010-01-06 20:37                                                   ` [linux-pm] [suspend/resume] Re: userspace notific ation " Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-06 20:49                                                     ` Roland Dreier
2010-01-06 20:56                                                       ` Roland Dreier
2010-01-15 20:02                                                   ` [linux-pm] [suspend/resume] Re: userspace notification " Pavel Machek
2010-01-05 21:26                                       ` Stefan Seyfried [this message]
     [not found]                                         ` <11f818a7.4b53f68a.4b43bb9b.b3a7f@o2.pl>
2010-01-05 23:05                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-04 12:46                                 ` Daniel Borkmann
2010-01-04 19:45                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-09 10:32                 ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-09 13:40                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-15 20:03                     ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-15 22:14                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-16  3:00                         ` Eric Miao
2010-01-16 17:00                           ` Stanislav Brabec
2010-01-16 18:12                             ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 22:05                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-16 22:19                                 ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 22:25                                   ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 22:31                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-16 22:26                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-17 13:07                                     ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-17 13:26                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-01-19  5:15                                         ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 22:32                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-01-16 18:12                           ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 18:12                         ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 22:07                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-16 22:14                             ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 22:21                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-02 21:20               ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-02 14:31   ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-06  1:05 [linux-pm] " Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-06 22:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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