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From: "Bartłomiej Zimoń" <uzi18@o2.pl>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, awalls@radix.net,
	danborkmann@googlemail.com, linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	stern@rowland.harvard.edu, rjw@sisk.pl
Subject: Re: [suspend/resume] Re: userspace notification from module
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 00:35:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54ac764e.502c1a33.4b4129c3.9dc1b@o2.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201001040030.01256.rjw@sisk.pl>

Dnia 4 stycznia 2010 0:30 "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl> napisał(a):

> On Sunday 03 January 2010, Bartłomiej Zimoń wrote:
> > Dnia 3 stycznia 2010 22:29 "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl> napisał(a):
> ...
> > 
> > It could be even UIO module but there are no pm events reachable there?
> > 
> > If it is not clean, we must extend pm-utils or write something new
> > (with backends dbus, ipc, scripts, ...)
> > But You see? We still have no information from kernel about events 
> > (especialy resume) or maybe i dont see this ;/
> 
> They are available to the process that tells the kernel to suspend.
> 
> Namely, to tell the kernel to suspend to RAM, the process (call it a power
> manager) needs to (for example) fprintf() "mem" to /sys/power/state.  As soon
> as this happens, the kernel will start to freeze processes (except for the
> power manager itself), so the power manager knows that everything should be
> ready for the suspend before it writes to /sys/power/state.  It doesn't need
> the kernel to tell it when the suspend is going to start, because it _knows_
> that in advance.
> 
> Now, the fprintf() used to trigger the suspend will not return until the resume
> is complete.  So, again, when the fprintf() returns, the power manager will know
> that the resume has just finished (more precisely, the kernel side of it has
> just finished).
> 
> There simply is no need for any special communication between the kernel and
> the power manager.
> 

Thx Rafael - now it clear to me.
And what do You think about sending extra signals to processes?

Best regards.
Bartłomiej Zimoń
PLD Linux, Kadu Team, FreeRunner user
http://kadu-im.blogspot.com/


  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-03 23:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-02 13:29 userspace notification from module Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-02 14:04 ` Daniel Borkmann
2010-01-02 14:27   ` [suspend/resume] " Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-02 15:11     ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]     ` <6f52f5b81001020713j5435cfadr1143806a9026adc2@mail.gmail.com>
2010-01-02 15:15       ` Daniel Borkmann
2010-01-02 15:40         ` Andy Walls
2010-01-02 15:56           ` Daniel Borkmann
2010-01-02 18:26             ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-02 21:01               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                 ` <7cf4f51f.5fc2a5cd.4b3fc3ad.c849c@o2.pl>
2010-01-02 23:29                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-03 17:20                     ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-03 21:50                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                     ` <65e5aef6.33251eb4.4b3fecf4.a2f99@o2.pl>
2010-01-03  9:30                       ` Daniel Borkmann
2010-01-03 10:06                         ` Daniel Borkmann
     [not found]                           ` <43bd3f9d.71702a8b.4b407900.b542@o2.pl>
2010-01-03 21:49                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-04 13:38                               ` Stefan Seyfried
2010-01-03 21:33                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-03 21:29                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                         ` <24fb84fa.38887c91.4b411ffd.e7f1f@o2.pl>
2010-01-03 23:30                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-03 23:35                             ` Bartłomiej Zimoń [this message]
2010-01-03 23:45                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-04  0:51                                 ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-04  1:06                                   ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-04 19:43                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-05  9:07                                     ` [linux-pm] " Anders Eriksson
     [not found]                                       ` <7e89c5d.77f82021.4b43a8d7.127e1@o2.pl>
2010-01-05 21:23                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-05 22:12                                           ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-05 23:03                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                                               ` <1ab86ec9.7bc73105.4b43cd45.c2747@o2.pl>
2010-01-06 14:35                                                 ` Anders Eriksson
2010-01-06 20:37                                                   ` [linux-pm] [suspend/resume] Re: userspace notific ation " Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-06 20:49                                                     ` Roland Dreier
2010-01-06 20:56                                                       ` Roland Dreier
2010-01-15 20:02                                                   ` [linux-pm] [suspend/resume] Re: userspace notification " Pavel Machek
2010-01-05 21:26                                       ` Stefan Seyfried
     [not found]                                         ` <11f818a7.4b53f68a.4b43bb9b.b3a7f@o2.pl>
2010-01-05 23:05                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-04 12:46                                 ` Daniel Borkmann
2010-01-04 19:45                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-09 10:32                 ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-09 13:40                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-15 20:03                     ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-15 22:14                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-16  3:00                         ` Eric Miao
2010-01-16 17:00                           ` Stanislav Brabec
2010-01-16 18:12                             ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 22:05                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-16 22:19                                 ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 22:25                                   ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 22:31                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-16 22:26                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-17 13:07                                     ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-17 13:26                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-01-19  5:15                                         ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 22:32                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-01-16 18:12                           ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 18:12                         ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 22:07                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-16 22:14                             ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 22:21                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-02 21:20               ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-02 14:31   ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-02 22:34 Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-03  8:31 Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-03 11:06 Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-03 23:17 Bartłomiej Zimoń

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