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From: Daniel Borkmann <danborkmann@googlemail.com>
To: "Bartłomiej Zimoń" <uzi18@o2.pl>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>, Andy Walls <awalls@radix.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	pm list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Subject: Re: [suspend/resume] Re: userspace notification from module
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 11:06:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B406C14.2070907@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B4063AB.7080401@gmail.com>

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Daniel Borkmann wrote:
> Bartłomiej Zimoń wrote:
>> What about this discusion:
>> http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/devkit-devel/2009-December/000617.html
>>
>> I will perform some tests to know what amount of time is usualy needed to disconnect
>> nicely client or something.
> 
> Actually I think this is what signals are there for and bringing this
> information via signals would have least overhead, problem is that this
> is not POSIX compliant, but may be you could have a try at this?!

I'm not quite sure how this is implemented within the kernel, but if you
have lots of processes doing their suspend routines, I think it is not
guaranteed that all of this finishes before doing the suspend, so you
will have some unknown states, processes could stuck at (and later [at
some unintended point of time] resume on).
Or, on the other hand you will have to block the kernel notification
chain until all the procs have signaled that they're done doing their
jobs. Regarding this, the kernel suspend would depend on the correctness
/ termination of userspace routines which is a _very_ bad thing.
You will have to introducte some timeouts... see where this is going? I
think a file interface might be too simple... just some thoughts about this.

Regards,
Daniel


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  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-03 10:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-02 13:29 userspace notification from module Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-02 14:04 ` Daniel Borkmann
2010-01-02 14:27   ` [suspend/resume] " Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-02 15:11     ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]     ` <6f52f5b81001020713j5435cfadr1143806a9026adc2@mail.gmail.com>
2010-01-02 15:15       ` Daniel Borkmann
2010-01-02 15:40         ` Andy Walls
2010-01-02 15:56           ` Daniel Borkmann
2010-01-02 18:26             ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-02 21:01               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                 ` <7cf4f51f.5fc2a5cd.4b3fc3ad.c849c@o2.pl>
2010-01-02 23:29                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-03 17:20                     ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-03 21:50                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                     ` <65e5aef6.33251eb4.4b3fecf4.a2f99@o2.pl>
2010-01-03  9:30                       ` Daniel Borkmann
2010-01-03 10:06                         ` Daniel Borkmann [this message]
     [not found]                           ` <43bd3f9d.71702a8b.4b407900.b542@o2.pl>
2010-01-03 21:49                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-04 13:38                               ` Stefan Seyfried
2010-01-03 21:33                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-03 21:29                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                         ` <24fb84fa.38887c91.4b411ffd.e7f1f@o2.pl>
2010-01-03 23:30                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-03 23:35                             ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-03 23:45                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-04  0:51                                 ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-04  1:06                                   ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-04 19:43                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-05  9:07                                     ` [linux-pm] " Anders Eriksson
     [not found]                                       ` <7e89c5d.77f82021.4b43a8d7.127e1@o2.pl>
2010-01-05 21:23                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-05 22:12                                           ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-05 23:03                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                                               ` <1ab86ec9.7bc73105.4b43cd45.c2747@o2.pl>
2010-01-06 14:35                                                 ` Anders Eriksson
2010-01-06 20:37                                                   ` [linux-pm] [suspend/resume] Re: userspace notific ation " Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-06 20:49                                                     ` Roland Dreier
2010-01-06 20:56                                                       ` Roland Dreier
2010-01-15 20:02                                                   ` [linux-pm] [suspend/resume] Re: userspace notification " Pavel Machek
2010-01-05 21:26                                       ` Stefan Seyfried
     [not found]                                         ` <11f818a7.4b53f68a.4b43bb9b.b3a7f@o2.pl>
2010-01-05 23:05                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-04 12:46                                 ` Daniel Borkmann
2010-01-04 19:45                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-09 10:32                 ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-09 13:40                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-15 20:03                     ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-15 22:14                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-16  3:00                         ` Eric Miao
2010-01-16 17:00                           ` Stanislav Brabec
2010-01-16 18:12                             ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 22:05                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-16 22:19                                 ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 22:25                                   ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 22:31                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-16 22:26                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-17 13:07                                     ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-17 13:26                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-01-19  5:15                                         ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 22:32                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-01-16 18:12                           ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 18:12                         ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 22:07                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-16 22:14                             ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 22:21                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-02 21:20               ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-02 14:31   ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-02 22:34 Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-03  8:31 Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-03 11:06 Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-03 23:17 Bartłomiej Zimoń

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