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From: Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
To: andy.green@linaro.org
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>,
	devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org,
	Nicolas Pitre <nicolas.pitre@linaro.org>,
	Linux USB list <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: RFC: Platform data for onboard USB assets
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 23:25:53 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110318232553.GA11422@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D83CF8C.3020605@linaro.org>

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 09:33:00PM +0000, Andy Green wrote:

> Well: Greg was also reduced to explaining that device renaming in  
> userland was decided "a long time ago".  It's not argumentation, it is  
> an appeal to an alleged tradition.

The story with device renaming is fairly simple - nobody could agree on
what the ideal names should be and different userlands ended up wanting
different things so rather than try to keep everyone happy the kernel
picked the simplest policy possible and let userland override it to its
heart's content.

> You think that striving away to create this Device Tree description of a  
> specific board and maintaining it in a bootloader is LESS work somehow  
> that registering platform devices in an array in the board definition  
> file?  I think not.

It's more the fact that it can be distributed separately to the kernel
which reduces the pressure to mainline the basic board description stuff
for ongoing maintinance.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-03-18 23:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 156+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-11  9:50 RFC: Platform data for onboard USB assets Andy Green
2011-03-11 12:31 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-11 12:44   ` Andy Green
2011-03-11 14:42     ` Roger Quadros
2011-03-11 15:12       ` Roger Quadros
2011-03-11 15:22       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-11 15:50         ` Roger Quadros
2011-03-11 15:55           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-11 15:29   ` Mark Brown
2011-03-11 15:54     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-11 16:03       ` Mark Brown
2011-03-11 16:14         ` Greg KH
2011-03-11 16:27           ` Mark Brown
2011-03-11 16:35             ` Greg KH
2011-03-11 16:48               ` Mark Brown
2011-03-11 16:56                 ` Greg KH
2011-03-11 17:08                   ` Mark Brown
2011-03-11 17:23                     ` Greg KH
2011-03-11 17:41                       ` Mark Brown
2011-03-17  2:14                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-03-17 20:13                         ` Greg KH
2011-03-17 20:18                           ` Mark Brown
2011-03-17 20:26                             ` Greg KH
2011-03-17 21:24                               ` Mark Brown
2011-03-17 21:31                                 ` Greg KH
2011-03-17 21:40                                   ` Mark Brown
2011-03-17 21:47                                     ` Greg KH
2011-03-17 22:33                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-17 22:53                                         ` Greg KH
2011-03-17 23:18                                           ` Andy Green
2011-03-17 23:25                                             ` Greg KH
2011-03-18  7:42                                               ` Andy Green
2011-03-18 22:54                                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-03-18 22:57                                                   ` Andy Green
2011-03-18  4:54                                             ` Grant Likely
2011-03-18  8:19                                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-17 23:22                                         ` Andy Green
2011-03-18 15:00                                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-18 15:15                                             ` Mark Brown
2011-03-18 17:52                                             ` Andy Green
2011-03-18 18:20                                               ` David Anders
2011-03-18 18:25                                                 ` Mark Brown
2011-03-18 20:02                                                   ` Andy Green
2011-03-18 21:11                                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-18 21:17                                                       ` Andy Green
2011-03-18 20:06                                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-18 21:33                                                 ` Andy Green
2011-03-18 23:25                                                   ` Mark Brown [this message]
2011-03-18 23:33                                                     ` Andy Green
2011-03-18 21:36                                                 ` Grant Likely
2011-03-18 22:47                                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-03-18 21:28                                               ` Grant Likely
2011-03-18 23:04                                                 ` Andy Green
2011-03-18 22:37                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-03-18 22:39                                             ` Andy Green
2011-03-17 23:27                                         ` Grant Likely
2011-03-18  7:49                                           ` Andy Green
2011-03-18  8:25                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-18  8:38                                               ` Andy Green
2011-03-17 22:11                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-17 22:20                                 ` Greg KH
2011-03-18  8:42                                 ` Roger Quadros
2011-03-18  9:01                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-18  9:55                                     ` Roger Quadros
2011-03-18 10:09                                       ` Andy Green
2011-03-17 21:03                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-03-17 21:32                             ` Greg KH
2011-03-11 16:26         ` Andy Green
2011-03-11 16:45           ` Alan Stern
2011-03-11 16:51             ` Andy Green
2011-03-11 17:08               ` Greg KH
2011-03-11 18:09                 ` Andy Green
2011-03-11 19:12                   ` Alan Stern
2011-03-11 20:05                     ` Andy Green
2011-03-11 20:21                       ` Greg KH
2011-03-11 21:07                         ` Andy Green
2011-03-11 21:44                           ` Greg KH
2011-03-11 22:24                             ` Andy Green
2011-03-12 16:00                             ` Alan Stern
2011-03-12 23:02                               ` Andy Green
2011-03-11 19:37                   ` Greg KH
2011-03-11 16:53             ` Mark Brown
2011-03-11 16:08 ` Greg KH
2011-03-11 16:20   ` Andy Green
2011-03-11 16:36     ` Greg KH
2011-03-11 16:41       ` Andy Green
2011-03-11 22:07         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-03-11 21:52 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-03-11 22:45 ` Grant Likely
2011-03-11 22:47   ` Andy Green
2011-03-11 23:39     ` Grant Likely
2011-03-14 14:54   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-22 15:05 ` Jaswinder Singh
2011-03-22 16:04   ` Andy Green
2011-03-22 18:19     ` Jaswinder Singh
2011-03-22 18:37       ` Andy Green
2011-03-22 18:59         ` Jaswinder Singh
2011-03-22 19:35           ` Andy Green
     [not found] ` <AANLkTim=ezye=1fQP_1a2SWbPnbENP9B+k27Z3AkS=zf@mail.gmail.com>
2011-03-22 15:12   ` Mark Brown
2011-03-22 15:23     ` Jaswinder Singh
2011-03-24 18:56     ` Grant Likely
2011-03-22 21:08   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-03-22 22:37     ` Andy Green
2011-03-23  1:03       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-03-23  2:26         ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-03-23  3:23           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-03-23  4:21             ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-03-23  4:56               ` Greg KH
2011-03-23  5:44               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-03-23  9:38               ` Alan Cox
2011-03-23 10:53                 ` Mark Brown
2011-03-23 15:04                   ` Greg KH
2011-03-23 15:10                     ` Mark Brown
2011-03-23 15:24                     ` Andy Green
2011-03-23 15:45                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-23 15:38                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-03-23  9:31             ` Andy Green
2011-03-23  9:47               ` Alan Cox
2011-03-23 10:06                 ` Andy Green
2011-03-23 10:32                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-23 10:39                     ` Andy Green
2011-03-23 10:56                       ` Alan Cox
2011-03-23 11:13                         ` Andy Green
2011-03-23 11:34                           ` Alan Cox
2011-03-23 12:02                             ` Andy Green
2011-03-23 15:08                     ` Greg KH
2011-03-23 16:12                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-23 16:22                         ` Greg KH
2011-03-23 16:34                           ` Andy Green
2011-03-23 16:56                           ` [RFC] usbnet: use eth%d name for known ethernet devices Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-23 17:04                             ` Andy Green
2011-03-23 17:11                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-24 10:45                                 ` Andy Green
2011-03-23 17:13                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-23 17:54                               ` David Anders
2011-03-23 18:46                             ` Greg KH
2011-03-23 19:35                               ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                                 ` <AANLkTim7hPfTv3gDYnh+jGxHBg0OvX=r1FKYoHnH7H_o@mail.gmail.com>
2011-03-23 19:57                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-23 19:59                                     ` Randy Dunlap
2011-03-23 23:17                                       ` Michal Nazarewicz
2011-03-23 23:19                                         ` Randy Dunlap
2011-03-23 23:38                                         ` Steve Calfee
2011-03-24  0:01                                           ` Ben Hutchings
2011-03-24 13:13                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-24 13:15                                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-24 13:44                                                 ` Andy Green
2011-03-24 13:56                                                 ` Alan Stern
2011-03-24 17:20                                                 ` Alexey Orishko
2011-03-25 11:57                                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-25 16:26                                                     ` Alexey Orishko
2011-03-25 16:43                                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-24 19:17                   ` RFC: Platform data for onboard USB assets Grant Likely
2011-03-24 20:10                     ` Andy Green
2011-03-23 14:55                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-03-23 10:22               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-03-23 15:11                 ` Nicolas Pitre

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