From: Andy Green <andy@warmcat.com>
To: Roger Quadros <roger.quadros@Nokia.com>
Cc: ext Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>,
Nicolas Pitre <nicolas.pitre@linaro.org>,
Linux USB list <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: RFC: Platform data for onboard USB assets
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 10:09:46 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D832F6A.70308@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D832BF4.9000004@nokia.com>
On 03/18/2011 09:55 AM, Somebody in the thread at some point said:
>>> So how does the Host LAN driver know what MAC address it should use?
>>
>> This is the problem we're trying to work out. The EEPROM is not
>> present, and user space has no way of knowing which MAC address
>> to set to which device. Note that there might be multiple
>> USB devices of the same type that are indistinguishable to user
>> space, so setting the MAC address there would not be completely
>> safe.
>>
>
> And what happens if you need to use u-boot or some bootloader with
> ethernet network support?
>
> Wouldn't it be better to have the MAC address programmed at the
> bootloader level?
Generally trying to have stuff half done in bootloader and half in Linux
makes things fragile and makes another place for trouble to hide (in
addition to bootloader state such as U-Boot env or boot.scr or
what-have-you needing distro control for updates).
If your bootloader is bloated enough to target network operations under
its own steam, it's bloated enough to set a random MAC or use the same
CPU ID scheme. But it doesn't mean that Linux should not assert the
state it wants when it runs.
-Andy
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-03-18 10:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 156+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-03-11 9:50 RFC: Platform data for onboard USB assets Andy Green
2011-03-11 12:31 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-11 12:44 ` Andy Green
2011-03-11 14:42 ` Roger Quadros
2011-03-11 15:12 ` Roger Quadros
2011-03-11 15:22 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-11 15:50 ` Roger Quadros
2011-03-11 15:55 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-11 15:29 ` Mark Brown
2011-03-11 15:54 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-11 16:03 ` Mark Brown
2011-03-11 16:14 ` Greg KH
2011-03-11 16:27 ` Mark Brown
2011-03-11 16:35 ` Greg KH
2011-03-11 16:48 ` Mark Brown
2011-03-11 16:56 ` Greg KH
2011-03-11 17:08 ` Mark Brown
2011-03-11 17:23 ` Greg KH
2011-03-11 17:41 ` Mark Brown
2011-03-17 2:14 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-03-17 20:13 ` Greg KH
2011-03-17 20:18 ` Mark Brown
2011-03-17 20:26 ` Greg KH
2011-03-17 21:24 ` Mark Brown
2011-03-17 21:31 ` Greg KH
2011-03-17 21:40 ` Mark Brown
2011-03-17 21:47 ` Greg KH
2011-03-17 22:33 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-17 22:53 ` Greg KH
2011-03-17 23:18 ` Andy Green
2011-03-17 23:25 ` Greg KH
2011-03-18 7:42 ` Andy Green
2011-03-18 22:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-03-18 22:57 ` Andy Green
2011-03-18 4:54 ` Grant Likely
2011-03-18 8:19 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-17 23:22 ` Andy Green
2011-03-18 15:00 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-18 15:15 ` Mark Brown
2011-03-18 17:52 ` Andy Green
2011-03-18 18:20 ` David Anders
2011-03-18 18:25 ` Mark Brown
2011-03-18 20:02 ` Andy Green
2011-03-18 21:11 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-18 21:17 ` Andy Green
2011-03-18 20:06 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-18 21:33 ` Andy Green
2011-03-18 23:25 ` Mark Brown
2011-03-18 23:33 ` Andy Green
2011-03-18 21:36 ` Grant Likely
2011-03-18 22:47 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-03-18 21:28 ` Grant Likely
2011-03-18 23:04 ` Andy Green
2011-03-18 22:37 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-03-18 22:39 ` Andy Green
2011-03-17 23:27 ` Grant Likely
2011-03-18 7:49 ` Andy Green
2011-03-18 8:25 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-18 8:38 ` Andy Green
2011-03-17 22:11 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-17 22:20 ` Greg KH
2011-03-18 8:42 ` Roger Quadros
2011-03-18 9:01 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-18 9:55 ` Roger Quadros
2011-03-18 10:09 ` Andy Green [this message]
2011-03-17 21:03 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-03-17 21:32 ` Greg KH
2011-03-11 16:26 ` Andy Green
2011-03-11 16:45 ` Alan Stern
2011-03-11 16:51 ` Andy Green
2011-03-11 17:08 ` Greg KH
2011-03-11 18:09 ` Andy Green
2011-03-11 19:12 ` Alan Stern
2011-03-11 20:05 ` Andy Green
2011-03-11 20:21 ` Greg KH
2011-03-11 21:07 ` Andy Green
2011-03-11 21:44 ` Greg KH
2011-03-11 22:24 ` Andy Green
2011-03-12 16:00 ` Alan Stern
2011-03-12 23:02 ` Andy Green
2011-03-11 19:37 ` Greg KH
2011-03-11 16:53 ` Mark Brown
2011-03-11 16:08 ` Greg KH
2011-03-11 16:20 ` Andy Green
2011-03-11 16:36 ` Greg KH
2011-03-11 16:41 ` Andy Green
2011-03-11 22:07 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-03-11 21:52 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-03-11 22:45 ` Grant Likely
2011-03-11 22:47 ` Andy Green
2011-03-11 23:39 ` Grant Likely
2011-03-14 14:54 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-22 15:05 ` Jaswinder Singh
2011-03-22 16:04 ` Andy Green
2011-03-22 18:19 ` Jaswinder Singh
2011-03-22 18:37 ` Andy Green
2011-03-22 18:59 ` Jaswinder Singh
2011-03-22 19:35 ` Andy Green
[not found] ` <AANLkTim=ezye=1fQP_1a2SWbPnbENP9B+k27Z3AkS=zf@mail.gmail.com>
2011-03-22 15:12 ` Mark Brown
2011-03-22 15:23 ` Jaswinder Singh
2011-03-24 18:56 ` Grant Likely
2011-03-22 21:08 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-03-22 22:37 ` Andy Green
2011-03-23 1:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-03-23 2:26 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-03-23 3:23 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-03-23 4:21 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-03-23 4:56 ` Greg KH
2011-03-23 5:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-03-23 9:38 ` Alan Cox
2011-03-23 10:53 ` Mark Brown
2011-03-23 15:04 ` Greg KH
2011-03-23 15:10 ` Mark Brown
2011-03-23 15:24 ` Andy Green
2011-03-23 15:45 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-23 15:38 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-03-23 9:31 ` Andy Green
2011-03-23 9:47 ` Alan Cox
2011-03-23 10:06 ` Andy Green
2011-03-23 10:32 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-23 10:39 ` Andy Green
2011-03-23 10:56 ` Alan Cox
2011-03-23 11:13 ` Andy Green
2011-03-23 11:34 ` Alan Cox
2011-03-23 12:02 ` Andy Green
2011-03-23 15:08 ` Greg KH
2011-03-23 16:12 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-23 16:22 ` Greg KH
2011-03-23 16:34 ` Andy Green
2011-03-23 16:56 ` [RFC] usbnet: use eth%d name for known ethernet devices Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-23 17:04 ` Andy Green
2011-03-23 17:11 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-24 10:45 ` Andy Green
2011-03-23 17:13 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-23 17:54 ` David Anders
2011-03-23 18:46 ` Greg KH
2011-03-23 19:35 ` Arnd Bergmann
[not found] ` <AANLkTim7hPfTv3gDYnh+jGxHBg0OvX=r1FKYoHnH7H_o@mail.gmail.com>
2011-03-23 19:57 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-23 19:59 ` Randy Dunlap
2011-03-23 23:17 ` Michal Nazarewicz
2011-03-23 23:19 ` Randy Dunlap
2011-03-23 23:38 ` Steve Calfee
2011-03-24 0:01 ` Ben Hutchings
2011-03-24 13:13 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-24 13:15 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-24 13:44 ` Andy Green
2011-03-24 13:56 ` Alan Stern
2011-03-24 17:20 ` Alexey Orishko
2011-03-25 11:57 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-25 16:26 ` Alexey Orishko
2011-03-25 16:43 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-24 19:17 ` RFC: Platform data for onboard USB assets Grant Likely
2011-03-24 20:10 ` Andy Green
2011-03-23 14:55 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-03-23 10:22 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-03-23 15:11 ` Nicolas Pitre
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