From: Anton Vorontsov <anton.vorontsov@linaro.org>
To: Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>
Cc: Leonid Moiseichuk <leonid.moiseichuk@nokia.com>,
John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linaro-kernel@lists.linaro.org, patches@linaro.org,
kernel-team@android.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] vmevent: Implement 'low memory' attribute
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 02:44:38 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120503094438.GA17744@lizard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOJsxLGxKdDnw6RU=1C3VVrwZJ53k_r6gOddYkjxQxjc1-kRXg@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, May 03, 2012 at 11:10:12AM +0300, Pekka Enberg wrote:
> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Anton Vorontsov
> <anton.vorontsov@linaro.org> wrote:
> > Accounting only free pages is very inaccurate for low memory handling,
> > so we have to be smarter here.
>
> Can you elaborate on what kind of problems there are with tracking free pages?
Well, there's no problem with tracking itself, the word 'inaccurate'
was probably misleading. Tracking just free pages is inaccurate for
our "low memory" notification needs, but NR_FREE_PAGES tracking
itself is fine.
The thing is that NR_FREE_PAGES accounts only completely unused
(wasted) pages. Most of the time we have very low NR_FREE_PAGES,
and lots of page cache and block buffers (i.e. NR_FILE_PAGES).
The file pages are easily reclaimable (except shmem/tmpfs and
locked pages), so file pages may be considered as "somewhat
free" pages.
The cache might contain very stale data (or not), so we have to
maneuver between the two strategies: sacrifice caches, or start
freeing memory (which prevents caches draining).
The strategy is described in the third patch in the series.
It might be not ideal, but the logic itself is not part of
the ABI (this is very similar "not ABI" rules as we have for
OOM scoring logic), and is subject for changes.
Thanks,
--
Anton Vorontsov
Email: cbouatmailru@gmail.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-05-03 9:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-05-01 13:24 [PATCH 0/3] vmevent: Implement 'low memory' attribute Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-01 13:25 ` [PATCH 1/3] vmevent: Implement equal-to attribute state Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-01 13:25 ` [PATCH 2/3] vmevent: Pass attr argument to sampling functions Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-01 13:26 ` [PATCH 3/3] vmevent: Implement special low-memory attribute Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-03 10:33 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-05-04 4:26 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-04 7:38 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-07 7:14 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-05-07 8:26 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-05-07 12:15 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-07 19:19 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-05-08 0:31 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-08 5:20 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-05-08 5:42 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-05-08 5:53 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-05-08 7:11 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-05-08 7:36 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-05-08 7:50 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-05-08 8:03 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-05-08 9:15 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-05-08 9:19 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-05-08 10:38 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-01 12:21 ` [PATCH 0/5] Some vmevent fixes Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-01 12:24 ` [PATCH 1/5] vmstat: Implement refresh_vm_stats() Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-05 14:30 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-06-08 3:17 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-01 12:24 ` [PATCH 2/5] vmevent: Convert from deferred timer to deferred work Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-08 3:25 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-08 6:58 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-08 7:03 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-08 8:07 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-08 7:05 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-08 7:10 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-08 7:18 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-08 7:23 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-08 7:28 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-08 7:33 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-08 7:49 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-08 7:58 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-08 8:16 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-08 8:41 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-08 8:57 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-08 10:35 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-08 11:03 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-08 12:13 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-08 12:25 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-01 12:24 ` [PATCH 3/5] vmevent: Refresh vmstats before sampling Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-05 14:36 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-06-01 12:24 ` [PATCH 4/5] vmevent: Hide meaningful names from the user-visible header Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-01 12:24 ` [PATCH 5/5] vmevent: Rename one-shot mode to edge trigger mode Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-03 18:26 ` [PATCH 0/5] Some vmevent fixes Pekka Enberg
2012-06-04 8:45 ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-04 9:20 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-04 12:23 ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-04 11:38 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-04 12:17 ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-04 13:35 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-05 7:53 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-05 8:00 ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-05 8:01 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-05 8:16 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-05 8:27 ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-08 3:35 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-04 20:05 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-04 22:39 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-08 3:45 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-08 6:57 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-05 7:47 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-05 8:39 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-07 2:41 ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-08 7:49 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-08 8:43 ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-08 8:48 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-08 9:12 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-08 9:45 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-08 10:42 ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-08 11:14 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-11 4:50 ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-05 7:52 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-08 3:55 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-08 6:54 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-08 6:57 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-08 6:59 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-04 19:50 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-05-08 8:32 ` [PATCH 3/3] vmevent: Implement special low-memory attribute Minchan Kim
2012-05-08 9:27 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-05 14:40 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-08 6:58 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-08 7:16 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-05-08 8:13 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-08 8:21 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-03 8:10 ` [PATCH 0/3] vmevent: Implement 'low memory' attribute Pekka Enberg
2012-05-03 9:44 ` Anton Vorontsov [this message]
2012-05-03 10:54 ` Pekka Enberg
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