From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com>
To: Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>
Cc: Anton Vorontsov <anton.vorontsov@linaro.org>,
Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
Leonid Moiseichuk <leonid.moiseichuk@nokia.com>,
John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linaro-kernel@lists.linaro.org, patches@linaro.org,
kernel-team@android.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] vmevent: Implement special low-memory attribute
Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 04:26:00 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHGf_=qcGfuG1g15SdE0SDxiuhCyVN025pQB+sQNuNba4Q4jcA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOJsxLH_7mMMe+2DvUxBW1i5nbUfkbfRE3iEhLQV9F_MM7=eiw@mail.gmail.com>
>> If we'll give up on "1." (Pekka, ping), then we need to solve "2."
>> in a sane way: we'll have to add a 'NR_FILE_PAGES - NR_SHMEM -
>> <todo-locked-file-pages>' attribute, and give it a name.
>
> Well, no, we can't give up on (1) completely. That'd mean that
> eventually we'd need to change the ABI and break userspace. The
> difference between exposing internal details and reasonable
> abstractions is by no means black and white.
>
> AFAICT, RECLAIMABLE_CACHE_PAGES is a reasonable thing to support. Can
> anyone come up with a reason why we couldn't do that in the future?
It can. but the problem is, that is completely useless. Because of, 1)
dirty pages writing-out
is sometimes very slow and 2) libc and some important library's pages
are critical important
for running a system even though it is clean and reclaimable. In other
word, kernel don't have
an info then can't expose it.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-05-07 8:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-05-01 13:24 [PATCH 0/3] vmevent: Implement 'low memory' attribute Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-01 13:25 ` [PATCH 1/3] vmevent: Implement equal-to attribute state Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-01 13:25 ` [PATCH 2/3] vmevent: Pass attr argument to sampling functions Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-01 13:26 ` [PATCH 3/3] vmevent: Implement special low-memory attribute Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-03 10:33 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-05-04 4:26 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-04 7:38 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-07 7:14 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-05-07 8:26 ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2012-05-07 12:15 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-07 19:19 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-05-08 0:31 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-08 5:20 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-05-08 5:42 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-05-08 5:53 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-05-08 7:11 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-05-08 7:36 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-05-08 7:50 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-05-08 8:03 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-05-08 9:15 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-05-08 9:19 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-05-08 10:38 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-01 12:21 ` [PATCH 0/5] Some vmevent fixes Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-01 12:24 ` [PATCH 1/5] vmstat: Implement refresh_vm_stats() Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-05 14:30 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-06-08 3:17 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-01 12:24 ` [PATCH 2/5] vmevent: Convert from deferred timer to deferred work Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-08 3:25 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-08 6:58 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-08 7:03 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-08 8:07 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-08 7:05 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-08 7:10 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-08 7:18 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-08 7:23 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-08 7:28 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-08 7:33 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-08 7:49 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-08 7:58 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-08 8:16 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-08 8:41 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-08 8:57 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-08 10:35 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-08 11:03 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-08 12:13 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-08 12:25 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-01 12:24 ` [PATCH 3/5] vmevent: Refresh vmstats before sampling Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-05 14:36 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-06-01 12:24 ` [PATCH 4/5] vmevent: Hide meaningful names from the user-visible header Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-01 12:24 ` [PATCH 5/5] vmevent: Rename one-shot mode to edge trigger mode Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-03 18:26 ` [PATCH 0/5] Some vmevent fixes Pekka Enberg
2012-06-04 8:45 ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-04 9:20 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-04 12:23 ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-04 11:38 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-04 12:17 ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-04 13:35 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-05 7:53 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-05 8:00 ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-05 8:01 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-05 8:16 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-05 8:27 ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-08 3:35 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-04 20:05 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-04 22:39 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-08 3:45 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-08 6:57 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-05 7:47 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-05 8:39 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-07 2:41 ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-08 7:49 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-08 8:43 ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-08 8:48 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-08 9:12 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-08 9:45 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-08 10:42 ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-08 11:14 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-11 4:50 ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-05 7:52 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-08 3:55 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-08 6:54 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-08 6:57 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-08 6:59 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-04 19:50 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-05-08 8:32 ` [PATCH 3/3] vmevent: Implement special low-memory attribute Minchan Kim
2012-05-08 9:27 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-05 14:40 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-08 6:58 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-08 7:16 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-05-08 8:13 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-08 8:21 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-03 8:10 ` [PATCH 0/3] vmevent: Implement 'low memory' attribute Pekka Enberg
2012-05-03 9:44 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-03 10:54 ` Pekka Enberg
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