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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: "Michael Kerrisk" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	"Arve Hjønnevåg" <arve@android.com>, NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>,
	"Linux PM list" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Magnus Damm" <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
	markgross@thegnar.org, "Matthew Garrett" <mjg@redhat.com>,
	"John Stultz" <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	"Brian Swetland" <swetland@google.com>,
	"Alan Stern" <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	"Dmitry Torokhov" <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	"Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	mtk@lwn.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH] epoll: Add a flag, EPOLLWAKEUP, to prevent suspend while epoll events are ready
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:55:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201207172155.11144.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120717193655.GA14280@kroah.com>

On Tuesday, July 17, 2012, Greg KH wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 09:22:25PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 17, 2012, Michael Kerrisk wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 12:04 AM, Arve Hjønnevåg <arve@android.com> wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 4:00 AM, Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl> wrote:
> > > >> On Monday, July 16, 2012, Michael Kerrisk wrote:
> > > >>> Arve, Rafael,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 7:33 AM, Arve Hjønnevåg <arve@android.com> wrote:
> > > >>> > When an epoll_event, that has the EPOLLWAKEUP flag set, is ready, a
> > > >>> > wakeup_source will be active to prevent suspend. This can be used to
> > > >>> > handle wakeup events from a driver that support poll, e.g. input, if
> > > >>> > that driver wakes up the waitqueue passed to epoll before allowing
> > > >>> > suspend.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> It's late it the -rc series,
> > > >>
> > > >> Well, exactly. :-)
> > > 
> > > If someone had CCed linux-api@ along the way (as per
> > > Documentation/SubmitChecklist), it might have helped ;-)
> > 
> > Well, it still _is_ late.
> > 
> > > >>> but it strikes me that CAP_EPOLLWAKEUP is
> > > >>> a poor name for the capability that governs the use of EPOLLWAKEUP.
> > > >>> While on the one hand some capabilities are overloaded
> > > >>> (https://lwn.net/Articles/486306/), on the other hand we should avoid
> > > >>> adding individual capabilities for each new API feature (otherwise
> > > >>> capabilities become administratively unwieldy).
> > > >>>
> > > >>> This capability is not really about "EPOLL". It's about the ability to
> > > >>> block system suspend. Therefore, IMO, a better name would be something
> > > >>> like: CAP_BLOCK_SUSPEND. This name is better because there might be
> > > >>> some other API feature that is later added that also has the effect of
> > > >>> preventing system suspends, and we could reasonably govern that
> > > >>> feature with the same capability.
> > > >
> > > > We already have another api, "/sys/power/wake_lock", that allow
> > > > user-space to block suspend. Do we want to apply this capability that
> > > > api as well, or only to apis that do not have other ways to restrict
> > > > access?
> > > 
> > > Well, the question is: is there a governor on the use of
> > > /sys/power/wake_lock? It makes sense either they are both governed
> > > (preferably by the same mechanism, I would have thought), or neither
> > > is.
> > > 
> > > >>> Does that seem sensible to you? I can send a patch for the name change.
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm not sure what Arve thinks about that, but I'd be fine with that.
> > > >>
> > > >> Arve, what do you think?
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > CAP_BLOCK_SUSPEND is fine with me, but if it does not apply to the
> > > > sysfs interface, then the comment should probably mention this.
> > > 
> > > I've sent a patch, but omitted mention of API details in the comments.
> > > Maybe that can be changed afterward, when a decision has been reached
> > > about governing /sys/power/wake_lock.
> > 
> > I'm going to push your patch for v3.5, but then I'm considering the following
> > one for v3.6.  I wouldn't like to make more changes in v3.5-rc at this point,
> > if possible.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Rafael
> > 
> > ---
> > From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl>
> > Subject: PM / Sleep: Require CAP_BLOCK_SUSPEND to use wake_lock/wake_unlock
> > 
> > Require processes wanting to use the wake_lock/wake_unlock sysfs
> > files to have the CAP_BLOCK_SUSPEND capability, which also is
> > required for the eventpoll EPOLLWAKEUP flag to be effective, so that
> > all interfaces related to blocking autosleep depend on the same
> > capability.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl>
> 
> Care to mark that for -stable as well?

I will.

Thanks,
Rafael

  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-17 19:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 129+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-07  1:00 [RFC][PATCH 0/8] PM: Implement autosleep and "wake locks" Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-07  1:01 ` [PATCH 1/8] PM / Sleep: Initialize wakeup source locks in wakeup_source_add() Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-07 22:29   ` John Stultz
2012-02-07 22:41     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-07  1:03 ` [PATCH 2/8] PM / Sleep: Do not check wakeup too often in try_to_freeze_tasks() Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-07  1:03 ` [PATCH 3/8] PM / Sleep: Look for wakeup events in later stages of device suspend Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-07  1:04 ` [PATCH 4/8] PM / Sleep: Use wait queue to signal "no wakeup events in progress" Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-08 23:10   ` NeilBrown
2012-02-09  0:05     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-12  1:27   ` mark gross
2012-02-07  1:05 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/8] PM / Sleep: Change wakeup statistics Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-15  6:15   ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2012-02-15 22:37     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-17  2:11       ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2012-02-07  1:06 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/8] PM / Sleep: Implement opportunistic sleep Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-07 22:49   ` [Update][RFC][PATCH " Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-07  1:06 ` [RFC][PATCH 7/8] PM / Sleep: Add "prevent autosleep time" statistics to wakeup sources Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-07  1:07 ` [RFC][PATCH 8/8] PM / Sleep: Add user space interface for manipulating " Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-07  1:13 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/8] PM: Implement autosleep and "wake locks" Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-08 23:57 ` NeilBrown
2012-02-10  0:44   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-12  2:05     ` mark gross
2012-02-12 21:32       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-14  0:11         ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2012-02-15 15:28           ` mark gross
2012-02-12  1:54   ` mark gross
2012-02-12  1:19 ` mark gross
2012-02-14  2:07 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2012-02-14 23:22   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-15  5:57     ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2012-02-15 23:07       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-16 22:22         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-17  3:56           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2012-02-17 23:02             ` [PATCH] PM / Sleep: Add more wakeup source initialization routines Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-18 23:50               ` [Update][PATCH] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-20 23:04                 ` [Update 2x][PATCH] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-17  3:55         ` [RFC][PATCH 0/8] PM: Implement autosleep and "wake locks" Arve Hjønnevåg
2012-02-17 20:57           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-21 23:31 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/7] PM: Implement autosleep and "wake locks", take 2 Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-21 23:32   ` [RFC][PATCH 1/7] PM / Sleep: Look for wakeup events in later stages of device suspend Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-21 23:33   ` [RFC][PATCH 2/7] PM / Sleep: Use wait queue to signal "no wakeup events in progress" Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-21 23:34   ` [RFC][PATCH 3/7] PM / Sleep: Change wakeup source statistics to follow Android Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-21 23:34   ` [RFC][PATCH 4/7] Input / PM: Add ioctl to block suspend while event queue is not empty Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-24  5:16     ` Matt Helsley
2012-02-25  4:25       ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2012-02-25 23:33         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-28  0:19         ` Matt Helsley
2012-02-26 20:57       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-27 22:18         ` Matt Helsley
2012-02-28  1:17           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-28  5:58         ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2012-03-04 22:56           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-03-06  1:04             ` [PATCH 1/2] epoll: Add a flag, EPOLLWAKEUP, to prevent suspend while epoll events are ready Arve Hjønnevåg
2012-03-06  1:04               ` [PATCH 2/2] PM / Sleep: Add wakeup_source_activate and wakeup_source_deactivate tracepoints Arve Hjønnevåg
2012-02-21 23:35   ` [RFC][PATCH 5/7] PM / Sleep: Implement opportunistic sleep Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-22  8:45     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-02-22 22:10       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-23  5:35         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-02-21 23:36   ` [RFC][PATCH 6/7] PM / Sleep: Add "prevent autosleep time" statistics to wakeup sources Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-21 23:37   ` [RFC][PATCH 7/7] PM / Sleep: Add user space interface for manipulating " Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-22  4:49   ` [RFC][PATCH 0/7] PM: Implement autosleep and "wake locks", take 2 John Stultz
2012-02-22  8:44     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-02-22 22:10       ` [RFC][PATCH 0/7] PM: Implement autosleep and "wake locks", take2 Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-23  6:25         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-02-23 21:26           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-23 21:32             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-24  4:44               ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-02-24 23:21                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-25  4:43                   ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2012-02-25 20:43                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-25 19:20                   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-02-25 21:01                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-28 10:24                       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-04-22 21:19   ` [RFC][PATCH 0/8] PM: Implement autosleep and "wake locks", take 3 Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-04-22 21:19     ` [PATCH 1/8] PM / Sleep: Look for wakeup events in later stages of device suspend Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-04-22 21:20     ` [PATCH 2/8] PM / Sleep: Use wait queue to signal "no wakeup events in progress" Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-04-23  4:01       ` mark gross
2012-04-22 21:21     ` [PATCH 3/8] PM / Sleep: Change wakeup source statistics to follow Android Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-04-22 21:21     ` [PATCH 4/8] PM / Sleep: Add wakeup_source_activate and wakeup_source_deactivate tracepoints Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-04-22 21:22     ` [RFC][PATCH 5/8] epoll: Add a flag, EPOLLWAKEUP, to prevent suspend while epoll events are ready Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-04-26  4:03       ` NeilBrown
2012-04-26 20:40         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-04-27  3:49           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2012-04-27 21:18             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-04-27 23:26               ` [PATCH] " Arve Hjønnevåg
2012-04-30  1:58             ` [RFC][PATCH 5/8] " NeilBrown
2012-05-01  0:52               ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2012-05-01  2:18                 ` NeilBrown
2012-05-01  5:33                 ` [PATCH] " Arve Hjønnevåg
2012-05-01  6:28                   ` NeilBrown
2012-05-01 13:51                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-07-16  6:38                   ` Michael Kerrisk
2012-07-16 11:00                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-07-16 22:04                       ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2012-07-17  5:14                         ` Michael Kerrisk
2012-07-17 19:22                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-07-17 19:36                             ` Greg KH
2012-07-17 19:55                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2012-07-18  6:41                             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2012-04-22 21:23     ` [RFC][PATCH 6/8] PM / Sleep: Implement opportunistic sleep Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-04-26  3:05       ` NeilBrown
2012-04-26 21:52         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-04-27  0:39           ` NeilBrown
2012-04-27 21:22             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-03  0:23           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2012-05-03 13:28             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-03 21:27               ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2012-05-03 22:20                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-03 22:16                   ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2012-05-03 22:24                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-04-22 21:24     ` [RFC][PATCH 7/8] PM / Sleep: Add "prevent autosleep time" statistics to wakeup sources Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-04-22 21:24     ` [RFC][PATCH 8/8] PM / Sleep: Add user space interface for manipulating " Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-04-24  1:35       ` John Stultz
2012-04-24 21:27         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-04-26  6:31           ` NeilBrown
2012-04-26 22:04             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-04-27  0:07               ` NeilBrown
2012-04-27 21:15                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-04-27  3:57               ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2012-04-27 21:14                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-04-27 21:17                   ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2012-04-27 21:34                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-03 19:29                       ` [PATCH 0/2]: Kconfig options for wakelocks limit and gc (was: Re: [RFC][PATCH 8/8] PM / Sleep: Add user space ...) Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-03 19:30                         ` [PATCH 1/2] PM / Sleep: Make the limit of user space wakeup sources configurable Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-03 19:34                         ` [PATCH 2/2] PM / Sleep: User space wakeup sources garbage collector Kconfig option Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-03 22:14                         ` [PATCH 0/2]: Kconfig options for wakelocks limit and gc (was: Re: [RFC][PATCH 8/8] PM / Sleep: Add user space ...) Arve Hjønnevåg
2012-05-03 22:20                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-04-23 16:49     ` [RFC][PATCH 0/8] PM: Implement autosleep and "wake locks", take 3 Greg KH
2012-04-23 19:51       ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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