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From: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Stephan Mueller <smueller@chronox.de>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	sandy harris <sandyinchina@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org,
	Nicholas Mc Guire <der.herr@hofr.at>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] CPU Jitter RNG: inclusion into kernel crypto API and /dev/random
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2013 07:43:54 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131106124354.GJ14235@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4306229.ErfOL470s2@tauon>

On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 12:49:45PM +0100, Stephan Mueller wrote:
> Here is a quote from his answer to my question whether he was able to 
> identify the root cause:
> 
> "its inherent in the microtiming of Hardware and there is nothing you 
> can do about it if you want the root cause is quantum physics"

That's unfortunate, since it leaves open the question of whether this
jitter is something that could be at least somewhat predictable if you
had a lot more information about the internal works of the CPU or not....

      	       		   	     	      - Ted

  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-06 12:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-11 18:38 [PATCH] CPU Jitter RNG: inclusion into kernel crypto API and /dev/random Stephan Mueller
2013-10-12  1:45 ` Sandy Harris
2013-10-12  3:28   ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-10-12 19:04     ` Stephan Mueller
2013-10-12 20:12   ` Stephan Mueller
     [not found]     ` <CACXcFm=_jmeKe2YYbHDi-jTGX-23hDsDeu_weWQkr2F_FpE_6g@mail.gmail.com>
2013-10-14 13:38       ` Fwd: " Sandy Harris
2013-10-14 14:12         ` Stephan Mueller
2013-10-14 14:26           ` Stephan Mueller
2013-10-14 14:14         ` Sandy Harris
2013-10-14 14:40           ` Stephan Mueller
2013-10-14 15:18             ` Sandy Harris
2013-10-14 15:26               ` Stephan Mueller
2013-10-14 15:46                 ` Sandy Harris
2013-10-14 21:33                 ` Sandy Harris
2013-10-15  6:23               ` Stephan Mueller
2013-10-28 15:40 ` Stephan Mueller
2013-10-28 16:06   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2013-10-28 16:15     ` Stephan Mueller
2013-10-28 21:45   ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-10-29  8:42     ` Stephan Mueller
2013-10-29 13:24       ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-10-29 14:00         ` Stephan Mueller
2013-10-29 22:25           ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-02 11:01           ` Pavel Machek
2013-11-02 11:12             ` Pavel Machek
2013-11-03  7:20             ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-03 12:41               ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-11-05 12:20                 ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-06 11:49                   ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-06 12:43                     ` Theodore Ts'o [this message]
2013-11-06 12:51                       ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-06 13:04                         ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-11-06 13:24                           ` Pavel Machek
2013-11-07  0:36                             ` Nicholas Mc Guire
2013-11-07  5:21                           ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-09 22:04                             ` Clemens Ladisch
2013-11-10  1:10                               ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-10 16:31                                 ` Clemens Ladisch
2013-11-10 17:21                                   ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-10 20:28                                     ` Clemens Ladisch
2013-11-13  3:12                                       ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-13 11:51                                         ` Clemens Ladisch
2013-11-13 15:15                                           ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-13 17:14                                             ` Pavel Machek
2013-11-14 10:51                                             ` Clemens Ladisch
2013-11-14 18:01                                               ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-14 18:30                                                 ` Clemens Ladisch
2013-11-14 18:34                                                   ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-11  2:58                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-07  1:03                         ` Nicholas Mc Guire
2013-11-07  5:26                           ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-09 22:04                             ` Clemens Ladisch
2013-11-10  1:16                               ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-03 23:32               ` Pavel Machek
2013-11-05 12:25                 ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-05 13:45                   ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-06 11:42                     ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-06 13:26                       ` Pavel Machek
2013-11-07  3:12                         ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-13  3:37         ` [PATCH] CPU Jitter RNG: Executing time variation tests on bare metal Stephan Mueller
2013-10-30 12:59     ` [PATCH] CPU Jitter RNG: inclusion into kernel crypto API and /dev/random Sandy Harris

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