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From: Sandy Harris <sandyinchina@gmail.com>
To: Stephan Mueller <smueller@chronox.de>
Cc: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] CPU Jitter RNG: inclusion into kernel crypto API and /dev/random
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 17:33:13 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACXcFm=jK=DuzaJFwEBK58wYJ96PSS317uOtc5BieXwjy4oVnQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1420251.G1iR4tbUp8@tauon>

Stephan Mueller <smueller@chronox.de> wrote:

> [quoting me]

>> ...your code is basically, with 64-bit x:
>>
>>   for( i=0, x = 0 ; i < 64; i++, x =rotl(x) )
>>        x |= bit()
>
> Why not declare some 64-bit constant C with a significant
>>number of bits set and do this:
>>
>>   for( i=0, x = 0 ; i < 64; i++, x =rotl(x) ) // same loop control
>>      if( bit() ) x ^= C ;
>>
>>This makes every output bit depend on many input bits
>>and costs almost nothing extra.

> Ok, let me play a bit with that. Maybe I can add another flag to the
> allocation function so that the caller can decide whether to use that.
> If the user is another RNG, you skip that mixing function, otherwise you
> should take it.

I'd say just do it. It is cheap enough and using it does no harm
even where it is not strictly needed. Adding a flag just gives the
calling code a chance to get it wrong. Better not to take that risk
if you don't have to.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-10-14 21:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-11 18:38 [PATCH] CPU Jitter RNG: inclusion into kernel crypto API and /dev/random Stephan Mueller
2013-10-12  1:45 ` Sandy Harris
2013-10-12  3:28   ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-10-12 19:04     ` Stephan Mueller
2013-10-12 20:12   ` Stephan Mueller
     [not found]     ` <CACXcFm=_jmeKe2YYbHDi-jTGX-23hDsDeu_weWQkr2F_FpE_6g@mail.gmail.com>
2013-10-14 13:38       ` Fwd: " Sandy Harris
2013-10-14 14:12         ` Stephan Mueller
2013-10-14 14:26           ` Stephan Mueller
2013-10-14 14:14         ` Sandy Harris
2013-10-14 14:40           ` Stephan Mueller
2013-10-14 15:18             ` Sandy Harris
2013-10-14 15:26               ` Stephan Mueller
2013-10-14 15:46                 ` Sandy Harris
2013-10-14 21:33                 ` Sandy Harris [this message]
2013-10-15  6:23               ` Stephan Mueller
2013-10-28 15:40 ` Stephan Mueller
2013-10-28 16:06   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2013-10-28 16:15     ` Stephan Mueller
2013-10-28 21:45   ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-10-29  8:42     ` Stephan Mueller
2013-10-29 13:24       ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-10-29 14:00         ` Stephan Mueller
2013-10-29 22:25           ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-02 11:01           ` Pavel Machek
2013-11-02 11:12             ` Pavel Machek
2013-11-03  7:20             ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-03 12:41               ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-11-05 12:20                 ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-06 11:49                   ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-06 12:43                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-11-06 12:51                       ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-06 13:04                         ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-11-06 13:24                           ` Pavel Machek
2013-11-07  0:36                             ` Nicholas Mc Guire
2013-11-07  5:21                           ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-09 22:04                             ` Clemens Ladisch
2013-11-10  1:10                               ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-10 16:31                                 ` Clemens Ladisch
2013-11-10 17:21                                   ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-10 20:28                                     ` Clemens Ladisch
2013-11-13  3:12                                       ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-13 11:51                                         ` Clemens Ladisch
2013-11-13 15:15                                           ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-13 17:14                                             ` Pavel Machek
2013-11-14 10:51                                             ` Clemens Ladisch
2013-11-14 18:01                                               ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-14 18:30                                                 ` Clemens Ladisch
2013-11-14 18:34                                                   ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-11  2:58                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-07  1:03                         ` Nicholas Mc Guire
2013-11-07  5:26                           ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-09 22:04                             ` Clemens Ladisch
2013-11-10  1:16                               ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-03 23:32               ` Pavel Machek
2013-11-05 12:25                 ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-05 13:45                   ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-06 11:42                     ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-06 13:26                       ` Pavel Machek
2013-11-07  3:12                         ` Stephan Mueller
2013-11-13  3:37         ` [PATCH] CPU Jitter RNG: Executing time variation tests on bare metal Stephan Mueller
2013-10-30 12:59     ` [PATCH] CPU Jitter RNG: inclusion into kernel crypto API and /dev/random Sandy Harris

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