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From: "Pali Rohár" <pali.rohar@gmail.com>
To: Mario Limonciello <mario_limonciello@dell.com>
Cc: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-input@vger.kernel.org" <linux-input@vger.kernel.org>,
	Rob <robr.bensson@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add a quirk for the Dell XPS 13 (2015) when in PS/2 mode.
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 00:39:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201504110039.40761@pali> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201502252145.22577@pali>

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On Wednesday 25 February 2015 21:45:22 Pali Rohár wrote:
> On Wednesday 25 February 2015 19:48:55 Mario Limonciello wrote:
> > On 02/20/2015 02:41 PM, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > > On Friday 20 February 2015 20:56:23 Mario Limonciello
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > resetafter=0 means to never reset (even if driver receive
> > > e.g thousand invalid packets). I think this is very
> > > dangerous if there will be other bugs either in linux
> > > driver or some other HW problems.
> > > 
> > > For ALPS issue I added resetafter = pktsize * 2 (Allow 2
> > > invalid packets without resetting device). Cannot you find
> > > something similar for synaptics touchpads on XPS? (pktsize
> > > for ALPS is 6, no idea how big are synaptics packets).
> > 
> > Pali,
> > 
> > I've done some experimentation with increasing the size to
> > resetafter to up to pktsize * 4.  It will decrease the
> > number of occurrences of this problem, but the problem
> > still occurs eventually.  pktsize for synaptics is 6 as
> > well.  Would you recommend to continue to go higher than
> > that?  Since out_of_sync_cnt is reset when a full packet
> > gets received, some arbitrarily high number should likely
> > fix it to.
> > 
> > That being said, if you try to more closely follow what
> > Windows does for the mouse, it's not issuing a reconnect no
> > matter how much bad data is received.
> 
> I believe problem is similar to one as with ALPS devices.
> Driver always receive 6 bytes packet of data (no new byte is
> inserted and no byte is never lost), just one byte in packet
> is incorrect (does not match specification).
> 
> Setting resetafter to > 0 prevent problems when driver enters
> into undefined state (either by bug in driver of other SW/HW
> problem). So I think setting resetafter to 0 is not good idea.
> 
> But if we know that setting resetafter to 4*pktsize is not
> enough (e.g. with experimenting you saw that driver received
> more then 4 invalid packets consecutively), set it to higher
> value.
> 
> I think it is still good idea to ignore maximally as many
> packets which can be received in time which is equal to
> resetting device.
> 
> E.g. when period of time in which we are dropping all packets
> is higher then time needed to reset touchpad, we should stop
> dropping packets and immediately reset touchpad. In this case
> we could hit maybe problem in driver (there can be bugs) or
> touchpad is in some bad state and out-of-sync...
> 
> So if your tests show that there are never invalid 10 packets
> consecutively, then set resetafter to 10 packets. Value 10 is
> still not high and if it fix problem with touchpad I think it
> is acceptable. But rather ask Dmitry what he thinks about it.
> This is just my opinion.

Hello Mario,
have you patched synaptics driver with some resetafter parameter? 
And have some team in dell found reason for invalid packets?

-- 
Pali Rohár
pali.rohar@gmail.com

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-04-10 22:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-19  1:43 [PATCH] Add a quirk for the Dell XPS 13 (2015) when in PS/2 mode Mario Limonciello
2015-02-19 17:16 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-02-19 18:16   ` Mario Limonciello
2015-02-20 18:47     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-02-20 19:24       ` Pali Rohár
2015-02-20 19:56         ` Mario Limonciello
2015-02-20 20:41           ` Pali Rohár
2015-02-20 21:21             ` Mario Limonciello
2015-02-20 21:31               ` Benjamin Tissoires
2015-02-20 21:40                 ` Mario Limonciello
2015-02-20 21:46                   ` Pali Rohár
2015-02-20 21:54                     ` Mario Limonciello
2015-02-22 16:55               ` Pali Rohár
2015-02-23 23:31                 ` Mario Limonciello
2015-02-24  0:01                   ` Pali Rohár
2015-02-25 18:16                     ` [SUSPECT SPAM] " Mario Limonciello
2015-02-24  0:51                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-02-25 18:26                   ` Mario Limonciello
2015-02-25 18:48             ` Mario Limonciello
2015-02-25 20:45               ` Pali Rohár
2015-03-14 19:17                 ` Benjamin Tissoires
2015-03-16 14:29                   ` Mario Limonciello
2015-03-16 14:40                     ` Benjamin Tissoires
2015-03-16 17:10                     ` Jason Ekstrand
2015-03-16 18:50                       ` Mario Limonciello
2015-03-16 20:42                         ` Jason Ekstrand
2015-03-16 20:50                           ` Mario Limonciello
2015-03-16 20:57                             ` Jason Ekstrand
2015-03-16 21:07                               ` Benjamin Tissoires
2015-03-17  0:45                                 ` Mario Limonciello
2015-04-10 22:39                 ` Pali Rohár [this message]
2015-04-10 23:07                   ` Mario Limonciello
2015-04-10 23:14                     ` Pali Rohár
2015-04-10 23:32                       ` Mario Limonciello
2015-04-11  2:19                         ` Ben Gamari
2015-04-13 18:55                           ` Mario Limonciello
2015-03-21 17:21           ` Ben Gamari

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