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From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/10] perf, tools, stat: Basic support for TopDown in perf stat
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 22:21:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151216212104.GZ15533@two.firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABPqkBQ-e8DZvZ6y_QPsf2ggqJ4CcaM_EaFwMPyy80ASY=Hsgw@mail.gmail.com>

> > +/*
> > + * Check whether we can use a group for top down.
> > + * Without a group may get bad results due to multiplexing.
> > + */
> 
> That is not because you have a counter used by the NMI that
> you cannot group. If HT is off you have plenty of counters to
> do this.

Such a heuristic wouldn't work on Atom where there are no more
counters in this case.

> > +static bool check_group(bool *warn)
> > +{
> > +       int n;
> > +
> > +       if (sysctl__read_int("kernel/nmi_watchdog", &n) < 0)
> > +               return false;
> > +       if (n > 0) {
> > +               *warn = true;
> > +               return false;
> > +       }
> > +       return true;
> > +}
> > +
> 
> I do not like this part very much. You are pulling in x86 specific
> knowledge into
> builtin_stat.c. Why not move this into an x86 specific file?

Done.

> >                         err = parse_events(evsel_list, transaction_attrs, NULL);
> > @@ -1511,6 +1579,36 @@ static int add_default_attributes(void)
> >                 return 0;
> >         }
> >
> > +       if (topdown_run) {
> > +               char *str = NULL;
> > +               bool warn = false;
> > +
> > +               filter_events(topdown_attrs, &str, check_group(&warn));
> > +               if (topdown_attrs[0] && str) {
> > +                       if (warn)
> > +                               fprintf(stderr,
> > +               "nmi_watchdog enabled with topdown. May give wrong results.\n"
> > +               "Disable with echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/nmi_watchdog\n");
> 
> This is x86 specific. Why not just try it out and in case of error
> suggest checking
> if pinned system-wide events exist (such as NMI watchdog on x86). that would
> be more generic.

That's really complicated, i would have to tear down all state and then
resubmit all the events. I think just checking the NMI watchdog is good
enough. I couldn't give a sensible error message for the generic case
anyways.

-Andi
-- 
ak@linux.intel.com -- Speaking for myself only.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-16 21:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-16  0:54 Add top down metrics to perf stat v2 Andi Kleen
2015-12-16  0:54 ` [PATCH 01/10] perf, tools: Dont stop PMU parsing on alias parse error Andi Kleen
2015-12-21 16:08   ` Jiri Olsa
2015-12-16  0:54 ` [PATCH 02/10] perf, tools, stat: Force --per-core mode for .agg-per-core aliases Andi Kleen
2015-12-16 14:16   ` Stephane Eranian
2015-12-21 16:14   ` Jiri Olsa
2015-12-21 16:16   ` Jiri Olsa
2015-12-16  0:54 ` [PATCH 03/10] perf, tools, stat: Avoid fractional digits for integer scales Andi Kleen
2015-12-16 14:22   ` Stephane Eranian
2015-12-16  0:54 ` [PATCH 04/10] perf, tools, stat: Scale values by unit before metrics Andi Kleen
2015-12-16  0:54 ` [PATCH 05/10] perf, tools, stat: Basic support for TopDown in perf stat Andi Kleen
2015-12-16 14:32   ` Stephane Eranian
2015-12-16 21:21     ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2015-12-17  9:26       ` Stephane Eranian
2015-12-17 14:03         ` Andi Kleen
2015-12-16  0:54 ` [PATCH 06/10] perf, tools, stat: Add computation of TopDown formulas Andi Kleen
2015-12-16  0:54 ` [PATCH 07/10] perf, tools, stat: Add extra output of counter values with -v Andi Kleen
2015-12-16  0:54 ` [PATCH 08/10] x86, perf: Support sysfs files depending on SMT status Andi Kleen
2015-12-16  8:53   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-12-16 12:48   ` Stephane Eranian
2015-12-16 16:26     ` Andi Kleen
2015-12-16  0:54 ` [PATCH 09/10] x86, perf: Add Top Down events to Intel Core Andi Kleen
2015-12-16  0:54 ` [PATCH 10/10] x86, perf: Add Top Down events to Intel Atom Andi Kleen
2015-12-17 10:27 ` Add top down metrics to perf stat v2 Stephane Eranian
2015-12-17 14:01   ` Andi Kleen
2015-12-17 23:31     ` Stephane Eranian
2015-12-18  1:55       ` Andi Kleen
2015-12-18  9:31         ` Stephane Eranian
2015-12-18 21:38           ` Andi Kleen

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