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From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
To: Dave Young <dyoung@redhat.com>
Cc: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
	AKASHI Takahiro <takahiro.akashi@linaro.org>,
	bhe@redhat.com, arnd@arndb.de, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	ebiederm@xmission.com, bauerman@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 3/3] kexec: extend kexec_file_load system call
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 11:52:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160719105049.GD27022@leverpostej> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160719005556.GE3326@dhcp-128-65.nay.redhat.com>

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 08:55:56AM +0800, Dave Young wrote:
> On 07/18/16 at 11:07am, Mark Rutland wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 10:30:24AM +0800, Dave Young wrote:
> > > I do not think it is worth to add another syscall for extra fds.
> > > We have open(2) as an example for different numbers of arguments
> > > already.
> > 
> > Did we change the syscall interface for that?
> > 
> > I was under the impression that there was always one underlying syscall,
> > and the C library did the right thing to pass the expected information
> > to the underlying syscall.
> 
> I'm not sure kexec_load and kexec_file_load were included in glibc, we use
> syscall directly in kexec-tools.
> 
> kexec_load man pages says there are no wrappers for both kexec_load and
> kexec_file_load in glibc.

For the above, I was talking about how open() was handled.

If there are no userspace wrappers, then the two cases aren't comparable
in the first place...

> > That's rather different to changing the underlying syscall.
> > 
> > Regardless of how this is wrapped in userspace, I do not think modifying
> > the existing prototype is a good idea, and I think this kind of
> > extension needs to be a new syscall.
> 
> Hmm, as I replied to Vivek, there is one case about the flags, previously
> the new flag will be regarded as invalid, but not we extend it it will be
> valid, this maybe the only potential bad case.

It's true that adding suport for new flags will change the behaviour of
what used to be error cases. We generally expect real users to not be
making pointless calls for which they rely on an error being returned in
all cases.

Regardless, this extended syscall changes some underlying assumptions
made with the development of kexec_file_load, and I think treating this
as an extension is not a great idea. From a user's perspective there is
little difference between passing an additional flag or using a
different syscall number, so I don't think that we gain much by altering
the existing prototype relative to allocating a new syscall number.

Thus, I think that if this is necessary it should be treated as a new
syscall.

Thanks,
Mark.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-19 10:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-12  1:41 [RFC 0/3] extend kexec_file_load system call AKASHI Takahiro
2016-07-12  1:41 ` [RFC 1/3] syscall: add kexec_file_load to generic unistd.h AKASHI Takahiro
2016-07-12  1:42 ` [RFC 2/3] kexec: add dtb info to struct kimage AKASHI Takahiro
2016-07-12  1:42 ` [RFC 3/3] kexec: extend kexec_file_load system call AKASHI Takahiro
2016-07-15 13:09   ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-15 13:19     ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-18  2:30       ` Dave Young
2016-07-18 10:07         ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-19  0:55           ` Dave Young
2016-07-19 10:52             ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2016-07-19 12:24               ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-19 12:47                 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-19 13:26                   ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-20 11:41         ` David Laight
2016-07-21  9:21           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-18  2:33     ` Dave Young
2016-07-27  0:24   ` [PATCH v2 " Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-08-05 20:46     ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-12 13:25 ` [RFC 0/3] " Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-12 13:58   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-12 14:02     ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-12 23:45       ` Stewart Smith
2016-07-13 13:27         ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-12 14:02   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-12 14:18     ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-12 14:24       ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-12 14:50         ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-13  2:36           ` Dave Young
2016-07-13  8:01             ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-13  8:23               ` Stewart Smith
2016-07-13  9:41               ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-13 13:13                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-13 18:45                   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-13 19:59                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-14  2:18                       ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-14  8:29                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-15  1:44                           ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-15  7:31                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-15 13:26                               ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-15 13:33                                 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-15 15:29                                   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-15 15:47                                     ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-15 13:42                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-15 20:26                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-15 21:03                                     ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-22  0:09                                       ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-22  0:53                                         ` Jeremy Kerr
2016-07-22  2:54                                         ` Michael Ellerman
2016-07-22 20:41                                           ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-15  8:49                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-15 13:03                     ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-13  9:34             ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-13 17:38               ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-07-13 17:58                 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-13 19:57                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-14 12:42                     ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-14  1:54                 ` Dave Young
2016-07-14  1:50               ` Dave Young
2016-07-12 16:25   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-12 20:58     ` Petr Tesarik
2016-07-12 21:22       ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-12 21:36         ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-12 21:53         ` Petr Tesarik
2016-07-12 22:18       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-13  4:59         ` Stewart Smith
2016-07-13  7:36           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-13  7:47             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-07-13  8:09               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-13  8:20               ` Stewart Smith
2016-07-13  7:55             ` Stewart Smith
2016-07-13  8:26               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-13  8:36                 ` Dave Young
2016-07-13  8:57                 ` Petr Tesarik
2016-07-13 13:03                 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-13 17:40                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-13 18:22                     ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-18 12:46                       ` Balbir Singh
2016-07-18 13:26                         ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-18 13:38                           ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-20  3:45                           ` Balbir Singh
2016-07-20  8:35                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-20 11:12                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-20 15:50                                 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-20 12:46                               ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-20 12:27                             ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-12 23:41       ` Stewart Smith
2016-07-13 13:25         ` Vivek Goyal

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