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From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: Dave Young <dyoung@redhat.com>,
	AKASHI Takahiro <takahiro.akashi@linaro.org>,
	bhe@redhat.com, arnd@arndb.de, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	ebiederm@xmission.com, bauerman@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 3/3] kexec: extend kexec_file_load system call
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 13:47:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160719124651.GA21007@leverpostej> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160719122406.GA18124@redhat.com>

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 08:24:06AM -0400, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 11:52:00AM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
> > Regardless, this extended syscall changes some underlying assumptions
> > made with the development of kexec_file_load, and I think treating this
> > as an extension is not a great idea. From a user's perspective there is
> > little difference between passing an additional flag or using a
> > different syscall number, so I don't think that we gain much by altering
> > the existing prototype relative to allocating a new syscall number.
> 
> If we are providing/opening up additional flags, I can't think what will
> it break. Same flag was invalid in old kernel but new kernel supports 
> it and will accept it. So it sounds reasonable to me to add new flags.
> 
> If existing users are not broken, then I think it might be a good idea
> to extend existing syscall. Otherwise userspace will have to be modified
> to understand a 3rd syscall also and an additional option will show up
> which asks users to specify which syscall to use. So extending existing
> syscall might keep it little simple for users.

I don't follow.

To use the new feature, you have to modify userspace anyway, as you
require userspace to pass information which it did not previously pass
(in the new arguments added to the syscall).

The presence of a new syscall does not imply the absence of the old
syscall, so you can always use that be default unless the user asks for
asomething only the new syscall provides. Regardless of the
syscall/flags difference, you still have to detect whether the new
functionality is present somehow.

> BTW, does kexec_load() needs to be modified too to handle DT?

No, at least for arm64. In the kexec_load case userspace provides the
DTB as a raw segment, and the user-provided purgatory sets up registers
to pass that to the new kernel.

Thanks,
Mark.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-19 12:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-12  1:41 [RFC 0/3] extend kexec_file_load system call AKASHI Takahiro
2016-07-12  1:41 ` [RFC 1/3] syscall: add kexec_file_load to generic unistd.h AKASHI Takahiro
2016-07-12  1:42 ` [RFC 2/3] kexec: add dtb info to struct kimage AKASHI Takahiro
2016-07-12  1:42 ` [RFC 3/3] kexec: extend kexec_file_load system call AKASHI Takahiro
2016-07-15 13:09   ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-15 13:19     ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-18  2:30       ` Dave Young
2016-07-18 10:07         ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-19  0:55           ` Dave Young
2016-07-19 10:52             ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-19 12:24               ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-19 12:47                 ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2016-07-19 13:26                   ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-20 11:41         ` David Laight
2016-07-21  9:21           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-18  2:33     ` Dave Young
2016-07-27  0:24   ` [PATCH v2 " Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-08-05 20:46     ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-12 13:25 ` [RFC 0/3] " Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-12 13:58   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-12 14:02     ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-12 23:45       ` Stewart Smith
2016-07-13 13:27         ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-12 14:02   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-12 14:18     ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-12 14:24       ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-12 14:50         ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-13  2:36           ` Dave Young
2016-07-13  8:01             ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-13  8:23               ` Stewart Smith
2016-07-13  9:41               ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-13 13:13                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-13 18:45                   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-13 19:59                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-14  2:18                       ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-14  8:29                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-15  1:44                           ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-15  7:31                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-15 13:26                               ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-15 13:33                                 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-15 15:29                                   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-15 15:47                                     ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-15 13:42                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-15 20:26                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-15 21:03                                     ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-22  0:09                                       ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-22  0:53                                         ` Jeremy Kerr
2016-07-22  2:54                                         ` Michael Ellerman
2016-07-22 20:41                                           ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-15  8:49                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-15 13:03                     ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-13  9:34             ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-13 17:38               ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-07-13 17:58                 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-13 19:57                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-14 12:42                     ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-14  1:54                 ` Dave Young
2016-07-14  1:50               ` Dave Young
2016-07-12 16:25   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-12 20:58     ` Petr Tesarik
2016-07-12 21:22       ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-12 21:36         ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-12 21:53         ` Petr Tesarik
2016-07-12 22:18       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-13  4:59         ` Stewart Smith
2016-07-13  7:36           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-13  7:47             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-07-13  8:09               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-13  8:20               ` Stewart Smith
2016-07-13  7:55             ` Stewart Smith
2016-07-13  8:26               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-13  8:36                 ` Dave Young
2016-07-13  8:57                 ` Petr Tesarik
2016-07-13 13:03                 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-13 17:40                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-13 18:22                     ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-18 12:46                       ` Balbir Singh
2016-07-18 13:26                         ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-18 13:38                           ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-20  3:45                           ` Balbir Singh
2016-07-20  8:35                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-20 11:12                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-20 15:50                                 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-20 12:46                               ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-20 12:27                             ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-12 23:41       ` Stewart Smith
2016-07-13 13:25         ` Vivek Goyal

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