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From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
To: Balbir Singh <bsingharora@gmail.com>
Cc: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Stewart Smith <stewart@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	bhe@redhat.com, arnd@arndb.de, Petr Tesarik <ptesarik@suse.cz>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, kexec@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	AKASHI Takahiro <takahiro.akashi@linaro.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Thiago Jung Bauermann <bauerman@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	dyoung@redhat.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/3] extend kexec_file_load system call
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 08:27:37 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160720122737.GA11361@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8a8b2909-7f95-03e4-bf8e-dd29b5fc1fba@gmail.com>

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 01:45:42PM +1000, Balbir Singh wrote:
> >>>>>  
> >>>>> Command line options are not signed. I thought idea behind secureboot
> >>>>> was to execute only trusted code and command line options don't enforce
> >>>>> you to execute unsigned code.
> >>>>>  
> >>
> >> You can set module.sig_enforce=0 and open up the system a bit assuming
> >> that you can get a module to load with another attack
> > 
> > IIUC, sig_enforce bool_enable_only so it can only be enabled. Default
> > value of it is 0 if CONFIG_MODULE_SIG_FORCE=n.
> > 
> > IOW, if your kernel forced signature verification, you should not be
> > able to do sig_enforce=0. If you kernel did not have
> > CONFIG_MODULE_SIG_FORCE=y, then sig_enforce should be 0 by default anyway
> > and you are not making it worse using command line.
> > 
> 
> OK.. I checked and you are right, but that is an example and there are
> other things like security=, thermal.*, nosmep, nosmap that need auditing
> for safety and might hurt the system security if used. I still think
> think that assuming you can pass any command line without breaking security
> is a broken argument.

I agree that if some command line option allows running unsigned code
at ring 0, then we probably should disable that on secureboot enabled
boot.

In fact, there were bunch of patches which made things tighter on
secureboot enabled machines from matthew garrett. AFAIK, these patches
never went upstream.

Vivek

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-07-20 12:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-12  1:41 [RFC 0/3] extend kexec_file_load system call AKASHI Takahiro
2016-07-12  1:41 ` [RFC 1/3] syscall: add kexec_file_load to generic unistd.h AKASHI Takahiro
2016-07-12  1:42 ` [RFC 2/3] kexec: add dtb info to struct kimage AKASHI Takahiro
2016-07-12  1:42 ` [RFC 3/3] kexec: extend kexec_file_load system call AKASHI Takahiro
2016-07-15 13:09   ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-15 13:19     ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-18  2:30       ` Dave Young
2016-07-18 10:07         ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-19  0:55           ` Dave Young
2016-07-19 10:52             ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-19 12:24               ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-19 12:47                 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-19 13:26                   ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-20 11:41         ` David Laight
2016-07-21  9:21           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-18  2:33     ` Dave Young
2016-07-27  0:24   ` [PATCH v2 " Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-08-05 20:46     ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-12 13:25 ` [RFC 0/3] " Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-12 13:58   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-12 14:02     ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-12 23:45       ` Stewart Smith
2016-07-13 13:27         ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-12 14:02   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-12 14:18     ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-12 14:24       ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-12 14:50         ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-13  2:36           ` Dave Young
2016-07-13  8:01             ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-13  8:23               ` Stewart Smith
2016-07-13  9:41               ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-13 13:13                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-13 18:45                   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-13 19:59                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-14  2:18                       ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-14  8:29                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-15  1:44                           ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-15  7:31                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-15 13:26                               ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-15 13:33                                 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-15 15:29                                   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-15 15:47                                     ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-15 13:42                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-15 20:26                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-15 21:03                                     ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-22  0:09                                       ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-22  0:53                                         ` Jeremy Kerr
2016-07-22  2:54                                         ` Michael Ellerman
2016-07-22 20:41                                           ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-15  8:49                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-15 13:03                     ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-13  9:34             ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-13 17:38               ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-07-13 17:58                 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-13 19:57                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-14 12:42                     ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-14  1:54                 ` Dave Young
2016-07-14  1:50               ` Dave Young
2016-07-12 16:25   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-12 20:58     ` Petr Tesarik
2016-07-12 21:22       ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-12 21:36         ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-12 21:53         ` Petr Tesarik
2016-07-12 22:18       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-13  4:59         ` Stewart Smith
2016-07-13  7:36           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-13  7:47             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-07-13  8:09               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-13  8:20               ` Stewart Smith
2016-07-13  7:55             ` Stewart Smith
2016-07-13  8:26               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-13  8:36                 ` Dave Young
2016-07-13  8:57                 ` Petr Tesarik
2016-07-13 13:03                 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-13 17:40                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-13 18:22                     ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-18 12:46                       ` Balbir Singh
2016-07-18 13:26                         ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-18 13:38                           ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-20  3:45                           ` Balbir Singh
2016-07-20  8:35                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-20 11:12                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-20 15:50                                 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-07-20 12:46                               ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-20 12:27                             ` Vivek Goyal [this message]
2016-07-12 23:41       ` Stewart Smith
2016-07-13 13:25         ` Vivek Goyal

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