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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>
Cc: Nils Holland <nholland@tisys.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	David Sterba <dsterba@suse.cz>,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: OOM: Better, but still there on 4.9
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2016 00:31:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161216233111.GA23392@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4e87e963-154a-df2c-80a4-ecc6d898f9a8@fb.com>

On Fri 16-12-16 17:47:25, Chris Mason wrote:
> On 12/16/2016 05:14 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Fri 16-12-16 13:15:18, Chris Mason wrote:
> > > On 12/16/2016 02:39 AM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > [...]
> > > > I believe the right way to go around this is to pursue what I've started
> > > > in [1]. I will try to prepare something for testing today for you. Stay
> > > > tuned. But I would be really happy if somebody from the btrfs camp could
> > > > check the NOFS aspect of this allocation. We have already seen
> > > > allocation stalls from this path quite recently
> > > 
> > > Just double checking, are you asking why we're using GFP_NOFS to avoid going
> > > into btrfs from the btrfs writepages call, or are you asking why we aren't
> > > allowing highmem?
> > 
> > I am more interested in the NOFS part. Why cannot this be a full
> > GFP_KERNEL context? What kind of locks we would lock up when recursing
> > to the fs via slab shrinkers?
> > 
> 
> Since this is our writepages call, any jump into direct reclaim would go to
> writepage, which would end up calling the same set of code to read metadata
> blocks, which would do a GFP_KERNEL allocation and end up back in writepage
> again.

But we are not doing pageout on the page cache from the direct reclaim
for a long time. So basically the only way to recurse back to the fs
code is via slab ([di]cache) shrinkers. Are those a problem as well?

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2016-12-16 23:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-15 22:57 OOM: Better, but still there on 4.9 Nils Holland
2016-12-16  7:39 ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-16 15:58   ` OOM: Better, but still there on Michal Hocko
2016-12-16 15:58     ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: consolidate GFP_NOFAIL checks in the allocator slowpath Michal Hocko
2016-12-16 15:58     ` [PATCH 2/2] mm, oom: do not enfore OOM killer for __GFP_NOFAIL automatically Michal Hocko
2016-12-16 17:31       ` Johannes Weiner
2016-12-16 22:12         ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-17 11:17           ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-18 16:37             ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-16 18:47     ` OOM: Better, but still there on Nils Holland
2016-12-17  0:02       ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-17 12:59         ` Nils Holland
2016-12-17 14:44           ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-17 17:11             ` Nils Holland
2016-12-17 21:06             ` Nils Holland
2016-12-18  5:14               ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-19 13:45               ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-20  2:08                 ` Nils Holland
2016-12-21  7:36                   ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-21 11:00                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-21 11:16                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-21 14:04                         ` Chris Mason
2016-12-22 10:10                     ` Nils Holland
2016-12-22 10:27                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-22 10:35                         ` Nils Holland
2016-12-22 10:46                           ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-22 19:17                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-22 21:46                         ` Nils Holland
2016-12-23 10:51                           ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-23 12:18                             ` Nils Holland
2016-12-23 12:57                               ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-23 14:47                                 ` [RFC PATCH] mm, memcg: fix (Re: OOM: Better, but still there on) Michal Hocko
2016-12-23 22:26                                   ` Nils Holland
2016-12-26 12:48                                     ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-26 18:57                                       ` Nils Holland
2016-12-27  8:08                                         ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-27 11:23                                           ` Nils Holland
2016-12-27 11:27                                             ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-27 15:55                                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-27 16:28                                         ` [PATCH] mm, vmscan: consider eligible zones in get_scan_count kbuild test robot
2016-12-28  8:51                                           ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-27 19:33                                         ` [RFC PATCH] mm, memcg: fix (Re: OOM: Better, but still there on) Nils Holland
2016-12-28  8:57                                           ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-29  1:20                                         ` Minchan Kim
2016-12-29  9:04                                           ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-30  2:05                                             ` Minchan Kim
2016-12-30 10:40                                               ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-29  0:31                                       ` Minchan Kim
2016-12-29  0:48                                         ` Minchan Kim
2016-12-29  8:52                                           ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-30 10:19                                       ` Mel Gorman
2016-12-30 11:05                                         ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-30 12:43                                           ` Mel Gorman
2016-12-25 22:25                                   ` [lkp-developer] [mm, memcg] d18e2b2aca: WARNING:at_mm/memcontrol.c:#mem_cgroup_update_lru_size kernel test robot
2016-12-26 12:26                                     ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-26 12:50                                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-18  0:28             ` OOM: Better, but still there on Xin Zhou
2016-12-16 18:15   ` OOM: Better, but still there on 4.9 Chris Mason
2016-12-16 22:14     ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-16 22:47       ` Chris Mason
2016-12-16 23:31         ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2016-12-16 19:50   ` Chris Mason

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