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From: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
To: Wanpeng Li <kernellwp@gmail.com>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [BUG nohz]: wrong user and system time accounting
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 09:44:53 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170328094453.331ead3c@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANRm+CwYkyzVe1yO0aWP5j5vxmFmSxH9nLd7yvfdUJRLS9G=vA@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 13:28:13 +0800
Wanpeng Li <kernellwp@gmail.com> wrote:

> 2017-03-28 2:38 GMT+08:00 Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>:
> > On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 09:56:47 +0800
> > Wanpeng Li <kernellwp@gmail.com> wrote:
> >  
> >> Actually after I bisect, the first bad commit is ff9a9b4c4334 ("sched,
> >> time: Switch VIRT_CPU_ACCOUNTING_GEN to jiffy granularity"). The bug
> >> can be reproduced readily if CONFIG_CONTEXT_TRACKING_FORCE is true,
> >> then just stress all the online cpus or just one cpu and leave others
> >> idle(so it stresses the global timekeeping one), top show 100%
> >> sys-time. And another way to reproduce it is by nohz_full, and gives
> >> the stress to the house keeping cpu, the top show 100% sys-time of the
> >> house keeping cpu, and also the other cpus who have at least two tasks
> >> running on and in full_nohz mode.  
> >
> > We're not short on reproducers, I have a new one too:
> >
> >  http://people.redhat.com/~lcapitul/real-time/acct-bug.c
> >
> > This is a single threaded task that reproduces the issue. If you
> > run it as instructed, you'll get:
> >
> >  - nohz_full CPU: 95% system time 5% idle time
> >  - non-nohz_full CPU: 95% user time 5% idle time (expected behavior)
> >
> > This reproduces the issue, but not for the reasons I expected. I was
> > trying to mimic what I was seeing on my trace when tracing the two
> > task problem. Which is: a task stays 995us in user-space and then
> > enters the kernel. Time won't be accounted for user-space because
> > we're not 1 jiffies yet, but if the task stays in the kernel for more
> > than 5us, then time will be accounted for system time when going
> > back to user-space.
> >
> > However, what really seems to be happening is: acct-bug is causing
> > the tick to be re-activated (why? it shouldn't) and that causes the
> > issue to appear. This is consistent with my other observations: I
> > can only reproduce the issue if the nohz_full CPU re-activates the tick.  
> 
> I see there are other kthreads like migration, kworker,
> torture_shuffle etc on the isolated CPU.

Except for torture_shuffle (which is new to me, and I guess could
be disabled in .config) the other threads should not be runnable
for most of the time.

> 
> Regards,
> Wanpeng Li
> 
> >  
> >> Let's consider the cpu which has responsibility for the global
> >> timekeeping, as the tracing posted above, the vtime_account_user() is
> >> called before tick_sched_timer() which will update jiffies,  
> >
> > But the vtime_account_user() call and the jiffies update happen
> > on different CPUs, no? So the ordering shouldn't matter.
> >  
> >> so jiffies
> >> is stale in vtime_account_user() and the run time in userspace is
> >> skipped, the vtime_user_enter() is called after jiffies update, so
> >> both the time in userspace and in  kernel are accumulated to sys time.
> >>
> >> If the housekeeping cpu is idle when CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL, everything is
> >> fine. However, if you give stress to the housekeeping cpu, top will
> >> show 100% sys-time of both the housekeeping cpu and the other cpus who
> >> have at least two tasks running on and in full_nohz mode.  
> >
> > The housekeeping CPUs are idle with my reproducers.
> >  
> >> I think it
> >> is because the stress delays the timer interrupt handling in some
> >> degree, then the jiffies is not updated timely before other cpus
> >> access it in vtime_account_user().
> >>
> >> I think we can keep syscalls/exceptions context tracking still in
> >> jiffies based sampling and utilize local_clock() in vtime_delta()
> >> again for irqs which avoids jiffies stale influence. I can make a
> >> patch if the idea is acceptable or there is any better proposal. :)
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Wanpeng Li
> >>  
> >  
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-28 13:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-23 20:55 [BUG nohz]: wrong user and system time accounting Luiz Capitulino
2017-03-24  0:56 ` Rik van Riel
2017-03-24  1:05   ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-03-24  1:08     ` Rik van Riel
2017-03-24  1:39       ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-03-27  5:33   ` lkml
2017-03-24  1:52 ` Wanpeng Li
2017-03-24  3:56   ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-03-27  1:56 ` Wanpeng Li
2017-03-27 17:35   ` Rik van Riel
2017-03-28  7:19     ` Wanpeng Li
     [not found]     ` <20170328132406.7d23579c@redhat.com>
     [not found]       ` <20170328161454.4a5d9e8b@redhat.com>
2017-03-28 21:01         ` Rik van Riel
2017-03-28 21:26           ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-03-29  9:56             ` Wanpeng Li
2017-03-29 12:56               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-03-28 21:24         ` Rik van Riel
2017-03-28 21:30           ` Luiz Capitulino
     [not found]       ` <20170329131656.1d6cb743@redhat.com>
2017-03-29 20:08         ` Rik van Riel
2017-03-29 22:54           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-03-30 12:57             ` Rik van Riel
2017-03-30  1:58           ` Wanpeng Li
2017-03-30 12:40             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-03-30 13:19               ` Mike Galbraith
2017-03-30  4:27           ` Mike Galbraith
2017-03-30  6:47             ` Wanpeng Li
2017-03-30 11:52               ` Wanpeng Li
2017-03-30 12:33                 ` Mike Galbraith
2017-03-30 13:38               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-03-30 13:59                 ` Wanpeng Li
2017-03-30 14:18                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-03-30 21:25                     ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-03-31 20:09                       ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-03-31 23:24                         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-04-01  3:11                           ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-04-03 15:23                             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-04-03 19:06                               ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-04-04 17:36                                 ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-04-05 14:26                                   ` Rik van Riel
2017-04-11 11:03                 ` Wanpeng Li
2017-04-11 11:36                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-04-11 11:43                     ` Wanpeng Li
2017-04-11 14:22               ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-04-12 13:18                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-04-12 14:57                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-04-12 15:14                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-04-13  4:31                     ` Wanpeng Li
2017-04-13 13:32                       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-05-02 10:01                         ` Wanpeng Li
2017-05-15  8:17                           ` Wanpeng Li
2017-06-29 17:22                             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-03-30 12:51             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-03-30 13:02               ` Rik van Riel
2017-03-30 13:35                 ` Mike Galbraith
2017-04-03 14:40                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-04-04  7:32                     ` Mike Galbraith
2017-03-30 13:44                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
     [not found]         ` <20170329221700.GB23895@lerouge>
2017-03-29 22:46           ` Wanpeng Li
2017-03-30  2:14             ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-03-30 12:27               ` Wanpeng Li
2017-03-27 18:38   ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-03-28  5:28     ` Wanpeng Li
2017-03-28 13:44       ` Luiz Capitulino [this message]
2017-03-29 13:04 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-03-29 13:14   ` Rik van Riel
2017-03-29 13:23     ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-03-29 21:12       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-03-30  1:48         ` Luiz Capitulino

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